https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |Needs Signoff -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 --- Comment #2 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- Created attachment 109218 --> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=109218&action=edit Screenshot of IE warning -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=25803 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 Henry Bolshaw <bolshawh@parliament.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bolshawh@parliament.uk Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off --- Comment #5 from Henry Bolshaw <bolshawh@parliament.uk> --- Tested on sandbox. I can confirm that the warning banner appeared in IE but did not appear in Chrome, Edge or Firefox. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 Marcel de Rooy <m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl Status|Signed Off |In Discussion --- Comment #7 from Marcel de Rooy <m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl> --- (In reply to David Cook from comment #0)

I frequently get people raising issues about Koha not working because they're using Internet Explorer.

While I think it is very sensible for Koha not to support IE, I think it might be useful in this transitional time to show a warning banner on the Staff Interface to tell users that they can't use IE anymore and expect Koha to work.

Ten years ago we couldnt use the staff client either with Internet Explorer. You speak here about "not .. anymore" and "transitional time". I dont understand. What happened? Where are you referring to? Which transition? Shouldnt we speak about "Does not support" ? Until now we 'tolerated' use of IE like "on your own risk". Do we really need an agressive banner like the one here? Moving to In discussion -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 --- Comment #8 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Marcel de Rooy from comment #7)

Ten years ago we couldnt use the staff client either with Internet Explorer.

That's not correct. I've supported Internet Explorer for Koha for about 8.5 years now. I've contributed a few patches to Koha to provide Internet Explorer support over the years.

You speak here about "not .. anymore" and "transitional time". I dont understand. What happened? Where are you referring to? Which transition?

Microsoft will no longer support Internet Explorer for their own apps like Office 365 starting from November 2020.

Shouldnt we speak about "Does not support" ? Until now we 'tolerated' use of IE like "on your own risk". Do we really need an agressive banner like the one here?

I don't think it's aggressive. Quite the opposite. I think it's user-friendly. It improves UX, since users will see the problem is their browser, rather than the problem being a broken Koha. As I noted above, I'm constantly getting complaints from people saying that Koha is broken in the staff interface, even after I tell them they can't use Internet Explorer anymore (before 19.11 they could still use IE 11). So I will be applying a patch like like locally very soon, but I figured I'd contribute it back to the community, as I'm sure other people will be having this same issue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 --- Comment #10 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Marcel de Rooy from comment #9)

Well, it is correct. We already use Koha for more than 10 years in production. And all the time I have been redirecting our staff users away from IE. Such recommendations were found in the wiki and documentation too. I dont recall any exact issues anymore, but some things just didnt work in IE (related to some standard Javascript things?). Display stuff?

I've had librarians using the Koha staff interface with IE for the last 10 years. While it may not have been recommended, I made it work for them, because they had no other options than IE for browsers at their workplaces. (That's changing with Microsoft pushing Edge over IE.) Typically, it was Javascript issues, but in many cases I was able to fix them using fairly simple feature detection. Technically, I could actually make master Koha work in IE by transpiling the Javascript, but with Edge being available it's just not worth the effort anymore. Edge represents a viable alternative to IE for corporate IT.

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You speak here about "not .. anymore" and "transitional time". I dont understand. What happened? Where are you referring to? Which transition? Microsoft will no longer support Internet Explorer for their own apps like Office 365 starting from November 2020.

Okay. That is more clear.

No worries. It's an exciting time! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Warn IE users of Staff |Warn IE users of staff |Interface that it is no |interface that it is no |longer supported and to use |longer supported and to use |a supported browser instead |a supported browser instead -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 --- Comment #13 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #12)

Text in .js files requires __( to be translatable. _( can only be used in templates. See: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#JS5: _Enabling_translation_of_language_strings_in_linked_JavaScript But I believe as the .js file in question is outside of the language directories, this won't work there either.

Ahh good to know. I'll look at fixing that.

I am not sure, but do we really want this check on every page? Would it not be enough to warn on the start page maybe?

That's a good point, although in theory we never know how people access the staff client. If they're using browser bookmarks, it could be possible to avoid the start page I think. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assignee|dcook@prosentient.com.au |oleonard@myacpl.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26305 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |WONTFIX Status|Failed QA |RESOLVED --- Comment #15 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Owen Leonard from comment #14)

Is this WONTFIX by now?

Yeah for sure. Done! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.