[Bug 10174] New: Digest is confusing
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Bug ID: 10174 Summary: Digest is confusing Classification: Unclassified Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: 3.10 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: trivial Priority: P5 - low Component: Templates Assignee: oleonard@myacpl.org Reporter: nengard@gmail.com At every training I get asked what 'Digest' means in reference to notices. I always explain it and people still aren't sure they get it. If you don't subscribe to a lot of mailing lists you're not really used to that language. The concern is that patrons will also be confused by this. The library I'm at suggested 'Group' instead of 'Digest' - can anyone else think of other language that might work? Or even a reason why we wouldn't want all enhanced messages to be digests? As it is only 2 have the option of being a 'Digest' or not - so not make them all Digests and be done with it? Just starting a discussion here to try and make this the most user-friendly for the patrons. Nicole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Zeno Tajoli <z.tajoli@cineca.it> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |z.tajoli@cineca.it --- Comment #1 from Zeno Tajoli <z.tajoli@cineca.it> --- I suggest 'Compact many emails in one' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #2 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- That's quite a mouthful - it's a thin column that I don't want to make extra wide just to fit the label. Nicole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #3 from Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> --- (In reply to comment #0)
At every training I get asked what 'Digest' means in reference to notices.
It's unfortunate, because digest is a very unambiguous term *if* you're familiar with mailing lists. If you're not, there's no analogue to compare to.
Or even a reason why we wouldn't want all enhanced messages to be digests?
I think this might be a more fruitful discussion than what to call digests. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #4 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- (In reply to comment #3)
(In reply to comment #0)
Or even a reason why we wouldn't want all enhanced messages to be digests?
I think this might be a more fruitful discussion than what to call digests.
Agreed! I just figured it might be easier to get a label change in to Koha than reworking the feature ;) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de --- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Some of our libraries are using the 'single' mail option and not the digests. I am not sure killing a feature is the answer. Would something like 'summary mail' work? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #6 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- I just got a suggestion - why not have it so that when you mouse over 'digest' it explains what it is? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 mathieu saby <mathieu.saby@univ-rennes2.fr> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mathieu.saby@univ-rennes2.f | |r --- Comment #7 from mathieu saby <mathieu.saby@univ-rennes2.fr> --- In french, we have no exact translation for digest. For us it is the same world as "summary" or "abstract". So we translate it by "résumé" (summary), but it sounds a bit strange. M. Saby -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #8 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- A suggestion I got today is 'consolidate' or 'consolidate emails' -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #9 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- better suggestion: 'consolidate messages' or 'consolidate msgs' to save space -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #10 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- 'consolidate msgs' might save space, but really confuse translators. I would have no idea how to translate that seeing it out of context. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Peggy Thrasher <p.thrasher@dover.nh.gov> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |p.thrasher@dover.nh.gov --- Comment #11 from Peggy Thrasher <p.thrasher@dover.nh.gov> --- I'm not sure why people want the single messages. For predue and due notices, they are all generated at the same time in the day, so why not group them all together? I think that digest vs. non-digest makes sense when new messages may come in at different times of the day (like hold notices for instance). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi --- Comment #12 from Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> --- *** Bug 12387 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version|3.10 |master -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patch complexity|--- |Trivial patch Status|NEW |Needs Signoff -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #13 from Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@biblibre.com> --- Created attachment 37898 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=37898&action=edit Bug 10174: Add a tooltip to explain what is a digest The digest term seems to be ambiguous for some people. This patch adds a tooltip to explain what it is (feel free to provide a better wording). Test plan: Go at the OPAC and click on the "Your messaging tab", you should see an icon close to "Digest only" to explain what is a digest. Same at the intranet on editing/showing patron info -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jonathan.druart@biblibre.co | |m Assignee|oleonard@myacpl.org |jonathan.druart@biblibre.co | |m -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Nick Clemens <nick@quecheelibrary.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Nick Clemens <nick@quecheelibrary.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #37898|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #14 from Nick Clemens <nick@quecheelibrary.org> --- Created attachment 37921 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=37921&action=edit [SIGNED OFF] Bug 10174: Add a tooltip to explain what is a digest The digest term seems to be ambiguous for some people. This patch adds a tooltip to explain what it is (feel free to provide a better wording). Test plan: Go at the OPAC and click on the "Your messaging tab", you should see an icon close to "Digest only" to explain what is a digest. Same at the intranet on editing/showing patron info Signed-off-by: Nick Clemens <nick@quecheelibrary.org> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Signed Off |Passed QA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #37921|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #15 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Created attachment 37923 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=37923&action=edit [PASSED QA] Bug 10174: Add a tooltip to explain what is a digest The digest term seems to be ambiguous for some people. This patch adds a tooltip to explain what it is (feel free to provide a better wording). Test plan: Go at the OPAC and click on the "Your messaging tab", you should see an icon close to "Digest only" to explain what is a digest. Same at the intranet on editing/showing patron info Signed-off-by: Nick Clemens <nick@quecheelibrary.org> Signed-off-by: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 --- Comment #16 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- I am not sure about the icon, 'i' might not work in all languages. But I really like the idea and I think styling can still be improved later. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Tomás Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |tomascohen@gmail.com Status|Passed QA |Pushed to Master --- Comment #17 from Tomás Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> --- Patch pushed to master. Thanks Jonathan! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10174 Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Pushed to Master |Pushed to Stable CC| |chris@bigballofwax.co.nz --- Comment #18 from Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> --- Pushed to 3.18.x will be in 3.18.7 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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