Recent exchanges on "how big a hard disk do you need" (associated possibly with bug 11830) prompted me to have a look for "big" files on our production box. The worst offender appears to be /var/lib/mysql with the "oracle bug" for ibdata: -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 1335885824 Feb 28 18:41 ibdata1 -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 5242880 Feb 28 18:41 ib_logfile0 -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 5242880 Feb 28 18:41 ib_logfile1 This has been running for 437 days, so I had a look at the sandbox (last completely rebuilt less than two months ago when I looked into git), and the results are not much better: -rw-rw---- 1 mysql mysql 1117782016 Feb 28 18:43 ibdata1 [log files identical] Two questions if I may. First, are my numbers typical? Second, has MariaDB been shelved permanently? Thanks and best regards, Paul