Am 28.05.12 17:19, schrieb Fischer, Katrin:
Hi Paul and all,
I agree with Chris N. here. Every exception we make, makes it harder to explain and stick to our rules. I tinkk every patch should at least have 2 parties involved.
But, if the patch we speak about, has been tested at the library, that makes it already two involved parties, I would say. Or am I missing sth here? - Marc
Katrin
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org im Auftrag von Chris Nighswonger Gesendet: Mo 28.05.2012 17:03 An: Paul Poulain Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org Betreff: Re: [Koha-devel] Signing-off a patch for a customer
Hi Paul,
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>wrote:
Hello koha-devel,
I just pushed a follow-up for bug 6858. If you look at the patch, you'll see that the author is from BibLibre, as well as the sign-offer. But if you look more carefully on the patch comments, you may understand that Stephane Delaye has signed-off "in the name of the library". We're facing here a case where the library don't want/can't sign-off their patch (they don't know how to do it and don't want to bother with doing it. They just said this patch worked for them)
At BibLibre, we have 3 project managers: Stéphane Delaye / Gaetan Boisson / François Charbonnier. They are librarians and are doing the glue between the library our customer and our developers. they know how to sign-off a patch.
I want, in this mail, request that those 3 ppl from BibLibre (and only them) can be sign-offers for patches written by another BibLibre developer, once the library has confirmed it works.
I propose that we define a standard message, something like Signed-off-by: Delaye Stephane <stephane.delaye@biblibre.com> patch validated by <LIBRARY NAME>, signed-off in their name
Can I have your agreement with this idea ? (of course, in case another support provider has the same kind of situation, this would also be applicable. It's not something I want for BibLibre only)
A look over the history of that bug seems to indicate that Biblibre has been responsible for:
1. Creation of the code 2. Sign-off of the code 3. QA of the code
I am not comfortable with this situation. It is not particularly a "Biblibre" thing with me, but a matter of principle. And it is occurring with greater frequency.
I believe we need to stick with the principles we agreed to. This patch clearly missed the "approval" of a dis-interested party in its initial commit to master. (Perhaps Katrin mentioned this at some point, but I'm not sure.) We need to take up the slack here and get a disinterested QA on this followup prior to pushing it to master.
I am of the strong opinion that going forward we need to maintain a more strict compliance with this principle of dis-interested sign-off/QA. Clearly at times one or the other may be impractical, however, one *or* the other is always possible. Perhaps it may not fit the desired schedule of the vendor, but violation of this principle is the first step down a slippery slope.
Kind Regards, Chris
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