RE: [Koha-devel] Ideas for next releases (2.4 ?) - project organisation
Thanks for passing this along Paul, it's great news. I'll reply to individual points below, but have some thoughts from OSCon that I wanted to pass along to the devel list. Tim O'Reilly talked a lot about web services, platforms, and social software in his keynote, and there were some ideas that seemed to make sense for the Koha world (especially in light of discussions on oss4lib about modularizing the ILS). Web Services for users/clients: reviews/ranking (this is a nice bit of participatory social software too) search patron info reserves reading club (or similar) tools Web Services to make use of (from other sources): amazon reviews/ranking amazon buying circle info ibiblio cddb imdb Social/Participatory Software: how can we give patrons more control over their own data? (make it relocatable when/if they move to a new library, make it optionally sharable in the form of reading/favorites lists, make it collaborative in the form of reading clubs and the like.) sharing data among libraries (can we move past ILL to share anonymized circulation data a'la amazon buying circles? how about sharing ranking/review data?) what value/information can be distributed beyond libraries?
-----Original Message----- From: koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Paul POULAIN Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:53 AM To: Emiliano Marmonti; Koha-devel Subject: [Koha-devel] Ideas for next releases (2.4 ?) - project organisation
Hi Emiliano & al,
For al : this mail was sent in my mailbox, but it seems we have a new future major contributor in Koha, so I answer on koha-devel.
Emiliano Marmonti wrote:
Hi Paul
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Koha 2.4 ROADMAP ============ The 2.2 is too close from official release to have such features correctly tested & integrated. Because they interact with the actual DB (I don't speak of barcodes printing here, of course). So, we should begin 2.4 roadmap (feel free to create a page on the wiki, it will be completed) What is your own roadmap for those features, in term of date I mean ?
I agree completely. It would be good to start assembling our 2.4 roadmap. Would it be possible to look at the 2.2 roadmap in terms of where we are today? I think both of these have some value.
KOHA PROJECT ORGANISATION ================== The management team should be reorganise, because we lack some/lot of roles. If your involvement in Koha is expected to last, maybe your arrival is an occasion to reorganize.
The first position that you could take, because it's free, is "test/quality manager". Are you interested ?
Instead of signing up for a position now, it's probably better to meet as a group and decide which roles we need and who wants to step up to them. I agree that a test/qa manager is a very important role to fill. Paul and MJR have the development/stable release management roles pretty well in hand at the moment as well. I think we might want to look at documentation and the overall project management position as well. [elided]
PD3: I could not talk with you very often in irc-koha by timezone problems (I really start working when you leave...)
Last year, we used to have chat sessions planned. We had the problem with timezone, so I often went to bed very late... But with kiwis (new zealand), australia, W-europe and America (south & north), we can't have everybody waked up at the same time... If we reorganize the Koha team, we should probably plan an IRC meeting for all volunteers at beginning of september. Any opinion on this everybody ?
I think this would be a great idea. How does Tuesday, Sep 7th (Wednesday the 8th for the NZers) sound? -pate
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Eyler, Patrick wrote:
Last year, we used to have chat sessions planned. We had the problem with timezone, so I often went to bed very late... But with kiwis (new zealand), australia, W-europe and America (south & north), we can't have everybody waked up at the same time... If we reorganize the Koha team, we should probably plan an IRC meeting for all volunteers at beginning of september. Any opinion on this everybody ?
I think this would be a great idea. How does Tuesday, Sep 7th (Wednesday the 8th for the NZers) sound?
Not a good week for me : i'm in Nantes (to Ecole des Mines de Nantes) I'm also in Paris on sep,14/15 Every other days are OK. (i'm GMT+2 until october 30) -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
That discussion is very, very good! Questioning Koha foundations could allow it to crystalise new positions that we don't have any idea today. Let's understand todays trends : - The OPAC tool must be service and patron oriented - The information must come to the patron, not the opposite - A patron can be member of more than one library - Independant systems must talk to each other - etc, etc, ... Would it be time to talk about LIS architecture ? I'm just raising the question... Dan Quoting "Eyler, Patrick" <eyler@amazon.com>:
Thanks for passing this along Paul, it's great news. I'll reply to individual points below, but have some thoughts from OSCon that I wanted to pass along to the devel list.
Tim O'Reilly talked a lot about web services, platforms, and social software in his keynote, and there were some ideas that seemed to make sense for the Koha world (especially in light of discussions on oss4lib about modularizing the ILS).
Web Services for users/clients: reviews/ranking (this is a nice bit of participatory social software too) search patron info reserves reading club (or similar) tools
Web Services to make use of (from other sources): amazon reviews/ranking amazon buying circle info ibiblio cddb imdb
Social/Participatory Software: how can we give patrons more control over their own data? (make it relocatable when/if they move to a new library, make it optionally sharable in the form of reading/favorites lists, make it collaborative in the form of reading clubs and the like.)
sharing data among libraries (can we move past ILL to share anonymized circulation data a'la amazon buying circles? how about sharing ranking/review data?)
what value/information can be distributed beyond libraries?
-----Original Message----- From: koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Paul POULAIN Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:53 AM To: Emiliano Marmonti; Koha-devel Subject: [Koha-devel] Ideas for next releases (2.4 ?) - project organisation
Hi Emiliano & al,
For al : this mail was sent in my mailbox, but it seems we have a new future major contributor in Koha, so I answer on koha-devel.
Emiliano Marmonti wrote:
Hi Paul
[elided]
Koha 2.4 ROADMAP ============ The 2.2 is too close from official release to have such features correctly tested & integrated. Because they interact with the actual DB (I don't speak of barcodes printing here, of course). So, we should begin 2.4 roadmap (feel free to create a page on the wiki, it will be completed) What is your own roadmap for those features, in term of date I mean ?
I agree completely. It would be good to start assembling our 2.4 roadmap. Would it be possible to look at the 2.2 roadmap in terms of where we are today? I think both of these have some value.
KOHA PROJECT ORGANISATION ================== The management team should be reorganise, because we lack some/lot of roles. If your involvement in Koha is expected to last, maybe your arrival is an occasion to reorganize.
The first position that you could take, because it's free, is "test/quality manager". Are you interested ?
Instead of signing up for a position now, it's probably better to meet as a group and decide which roles we need and who wants to step up to them. I agree that a test/qa manager is a very important role to fill. Paul and MJR have the development/stable release management roles pretty well in hand at the moment as well. I think we might want to look at documentation and the overall project management position as well.
[elided]
PD3: I could not talk with you very often in irc-koha by timezone problems (I really start working when you leave...)
Last year, we used to have chat sessions planned. We had the problem with timezone, so I often went to bed very late... But with kiwis (new zealand), australia, W-europe and America (south & north), we can't have everybody waked up at the same time... If we reorganize the Koha team, we should probably plan an IRC meeting for all volunteers at beginning of september. Any opinion on this everybody ?
I think this would be a great idea. How does Tuesday, Sep 7th (Wednesday the 8th for the NZers) sound?
-pate
-- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
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Eyler, Patrick wrote:
Tim O'Reilly talked a lot about web services, platforms, and social software in his keynote, and there were some ideas that seemed to make sense for the Koha world (especially in light of discussions on oss4lib about modularizing the ILS).
Web Services for users/clients: reviews/ranking (this is a nice bit of participatory social software too) search patron info reserves reading club (or similar) tools
Web Services to make use of (from other sources): amazon reviews/ranking amazon buying circle info ibiblio cddb imdb
I certainly feel, as a librarian, that Web Services are the way forward for ILSs. For users, as you pointed out, but also for librarians. It might allow us to go beyond Z3950 to implement SRW/SRU (see http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue40/morgan/). It might also allow us to have a system more easily integrated in an environment which looks seamless to the user: for example, when he logs in the College web site, he gets informations about new books at the library waiting for him, even though he is not logged in Koha, nor even on the library web site. I think it might allow us all sort of things actually. Nicolas
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