[Koha-devel] Gender-neutral pronouns

Jonathan Druart jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org
Wed Apr 19 19:16:25 CEST 2017


The next step would be to provide a check to our QA tests to make sure we
will not introduce future occurrences.
I am pretty sure they will not be caught manually by QAers.

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 at 13:56 Eric Phetteplace <ephetteplace at cca.edu> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> English has a singular "they". It doesn't suggest androgyny, either, from
> the definitions I've seen. For instance, Oxford English Dictionary:
>
> 2. In anaphoric reference to a singular noun or pronoun of undetermined
> gender: he or she.
>
> The first usage example OED provides is from 1375. I don't think replacing
> "he" with "she" addresses the problem, it's still assuming a default
> gender. It's not too much tricker to search code for he/him & replace with
> they/them but that's also just an implementation issue, not a policy one.
>
>
> It sounds like people are otherwise supportive but I'm not sure what the
> next step should be.
>
> Best,
> Eric Phetteplace
> Systems Librarian
> California College of the Arts
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>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Paul A <paul.a at navalmarinearchive.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-18 08:25 PM, Eric Phetteplace wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I opened bug
>>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> Before*:*
>>>
>> "Kid growing and become a juvenile, he should pay "
>>
>>> After:
>>>
>> "Kid growing and become a juvenile, they should pay "
>>
>> Political correctness has never been my strong point (although I try to
>> understand it), but I'm proficient in grammatical rigour. [1]
>>
>> "Kid" is a singular noun, "a" is a singular article -- "they" is a plural
>> pronoun. Perhaps replace "they" with "[s]he"? or "Kids growing and becoming
>> juveniles, they should pay"?
>>
>> From a code maintenance p.o.v., it's easier to find and replace 'he' with
>> '[s]he' if really this becomes a priority for Koha.
>>
>> Best -- Paul
>>
>> [1] I am aware of the so-called "singular third person epicene 'they'",
>> but academically object to it -- it often suggests androgyny rather than
>> gender neutrality.
>>
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