[Koha-devel] Gender-neutral pronouns

[Philippe Blouin]

How many of "these" are there to change?  Not that the work itself will 
be massive, but putting a 'they' in the middle of a sentence does not 
make it easy to translate intuitively, I would think.  If it's a 
consideration (it is for non-English users, at least).


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On 04/19/2017 01:16 PM, Jonathan Druart wrote:
> The next step would be to provide a check to our QA tests to make sure 
> we will not introduce future occurrences.
> I am pretty sure they will not be caught manually by QAers.
>
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 at 13:56 Eric Phetteplace <ephetteplace at cca.edu 
> <mailto:ephetteplace at cca.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Paul,
>
>     English has a singular "they". It doesn't suggest androgyny,
>     either, from the definitions I've seen. For instance, Oxford
>     English Dictionary:
>
>     2. In anaphoric reference to a singular noun or pronoun of
>     undetermined gender: he or she.
>
>     The first usage example OED provides is from 1375. I don't think
>     replacing "he" with "she" addresses the problem, it's still
>     assuming a default gender. It's not too much tricker to search
>     code for he/him & replace with they/them but that's also just an
>     implementation issue, not a policy one.
>
>
>     It sounds like people are otherwise supportive but I'm not sure
>     what the next step should be.
>
>     Best,
>     Eric Phetteplace
>     Systems Librarian
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>     On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Paul A
>     <paul.a at navalmarinearchive.com
>     <mailto:paul.a at navalmarinearchive.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 2017-04-18 08:25 PM, Eric Phetteplace wrote:
>
>             Hi list,
>
>             I opened bug
>
>         [snip]
>
>             Before*:*
>
>         "Kid growing and become a juvenile, he should pay "
>
>             After:
>
>         "Kid growing and become a juvenile, they should pay "
>
>         Political correctness has never been my strong point (although
>         I try to understand it), but I'm proficient in grammatical
>         rigour. [1]
>
>         "Kid" is a singular noun, "a" is a singular article -- "they"
>         is a plural pronoun. Perhaps replace "they" with "[s]he"? or
>         "Kids growing and becoming juveniles, they should pay"?
>
>         From a code maintenance p.o.v., it's easier to find and
>         replace 'he' with '[s]he' if really this becomes a priority
>         for Koha.
>
>         Best -- Paul
>
>         [1] I am aware of the so-called "singular third person epicene
>         'they'", but academically object to it -- it often suggests
>         androgyny rather than gender neutrality.
>
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