[Koha-devel] What is biblioitemnumber for?

Barton Chittenden barton at bywatersolutions.com
Mon Nov 19 20:16:39 CET 2018


Thanks Paul, that was interesting! I'm glad I asked :-)

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:58 AM Stefano Bargioni <bargioni at pusc.it> wrote:

> Paul, very interesting the basic historic idea. What you wrote, helps me
> to say that with Elasticsearch, Koha has the possibility to adopt
> definitely the LRM [1] model, that is going to be implemented in RDA [2].
> Especially important IMHO are links among authorities. Or, better, links
> of any type.
> Stefano
>
> [1] https://www.ifla.org/publications/node/11412
> [2] http://www.rda-rsc.org/ImplementationLRMinRDA
>
> > On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:39, Ere Maijala <ere.maijala at helsinki.fi> wrote:
> >
> > If three levels are needed in the future, I'd start from a clean(er)
> slate and at least make sure they're named appropriately.
> >
> > --Ere
> >
> > Marcel de Rooy kirjoitti 19.11.2018 klo 15.08:
> >> Three levels in BIBFrame again ?
> >> *Van:* koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org <
> koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org> *Namens *Tomas Cohen Arazi
> >> *Verzonden:* maandag 19 november 2018 14:02
> >> *Aan:* Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>
> >> *CC:* koha-devel <koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org>
> >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Koha-devel] What is biblioitemnumber for?
> >> Great info, Paul!
> >> We now removed the marc/marcxml columns from biblioitems too, so it
> makes more sense to merge them.
> >> El lun., 19 nov. 2018 a las 6:02, Paul Poulain (<
> paul.poulain at biblibre.com <mailto:paul.poulain at biblibre.com>>) escribió:
> >>    <wise-old-man mode ON>
> >>    Koha v1.x has no MARC support. In fact, it was the first FRBR
> compliant
> >>    software ever, long before FRBR exist... (who says Open Source is not
> >>    innovative :D )
> >>    More explanation: in Koha v1, you had to enter a minimal biblio
> >>    description (title, author(s), subject(s)) THEN one or more
> expression
> >>    of the work (one large print, one readed book, one pocket, ...), THEN
> >>    the different items. Very efficient and handy.
> >>    When I wrote the MARC code, I had to break this 3 level management
> >>    (MARC
> >>    has only 2 levels, biblio and items).
> >>    In Koha 2.0, you had the option to stay "basic" of "marc"
> cataloguing.
> >>    It has been removed in Koha ??? (2.2 or 3.0 ?), only MARC cataloguing
> >>    remained.
> >>    At this time biblioitems table became useless/should have been
> merged,
> >>    but no one coded/hacked it. But yes, it can be removed (unless we
> want
> >>    to keep it for future advanced support of FRBR :D )
> >>    <wise-old-man mode OFF>
> >>    Le 17/11/2018 à 20:40, Barton Chittenden a écrit :
> >>     > Just out of curiosity, why does biblioitemnumber exist? There
> should
> >>     > be a one-to-one relationship between biblio records and biblioitem
> >>     > records ... so why not use biblionumber as the primary key for
> >>     > biblioitems?
> >>     >
> >>     > --Barton
> >>    --     Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
> >>    BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
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> > Ere Maijala
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