Joshua Ferraro wrote:
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:28 AM, MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote:
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Can we put the Plone site into the long grass until after 3.0 is out and we've a few deployments under our belt, please? You say you've not got time to work on it or run a normal vote, we've not had time to convert the current design, I doubt many people have got time to learn how to edit Plone just now and kea isn't that much worse. To edit a plone site, you click on edit. It sounds like the skin2 site hasn't had the user profiles set up the way that koha.org will.
MJ, you're the only one to raise an objection to plone and suggest that we should delay the website update -- that's hardly concensus. The multi-lingual needs of our community alone are serious incentive to get this finished. As I've stated in the past, there are some folks who have been waiting to have a koha.org in their language for YEARS.
It sounds like you and paul prefer aspects of the current koha.org design, but I haven't heard any specifics yet. It's very possible we could include those aspects into the final plone skin. Either of you care to elaborate on what it is about the current design that you like?
What I heard Paul say was "colors" and "shapes". To quote:
Note also that I understand the interest of Plone. But I think at this moment, that the design (colors, round squares, blue/white/green...) are better than the 3 proposals. So I wonder if we could not keep the design AND switch to plone.
(...and I have to apologize for going down the rabbit trail of CSS and layout - the poll explicitly states "Focus on the graphical aspects of the web design such as color, style, and fonts."). Color: ------ I understand that color styles/preferences change over time, but skin #2 is simply UGLY in my unenlightened view. Skin #1 is based on a little darker shade of green than koha.org and little, if any, of the blue. I see the green as the same basic color as koha.org. Skin #3 is a "brighter" (lighter) shade than koha.org, and uses both the green and the blue. Again, I see the same basic colors, different shade. It also isn't using the gradient on the blocks of color. Style: ------ Skin #1 has the rounded box look like koha.org, although the layout is quite different - koha.org's top "box" is a fully rounded stand-alone block where Skin #1 the top part is a full width black banner. I like Skin #1's effect somewhat better, but cannot justify why. (I've previously commented on Skin #1's (and koha.org's) limitations on reflowing text and rescaling the header as the window gets bigger or smaller - I believe this is driven by the round edge graphics approach used to make the rounded boxes.) Skin #2 has a very spartan, square box look to me. UGLY. Skin #3 is angular, but not the "smack you in the face with square boxes" look of #2. I actually prefer this of the three. My bias is that I'm more of a Nokia N800 kinda guy than an iPhone kinda guy (utilitarian rather than stylin'). Fonts: ------ I cannot see any difference in fonts. Other: ------ Plone can give registered users a choice of skins. All four (and more) skins could theoretically be supported, but that obviously adds to initial and maintenance costs. My personal take: Anything but #2. Best regards, gvb