[Koha-devel] Architectural goals for 3.16

[Chris Cormack]

* Mathieu Saby (mathieu.saby at univ-rennes2.fr) wrote:
> Hi
> Do you know what is the share of FF 3.6 and IE 7 in Nigeria,
> Philippines, Pakistan or Turkey?
> I suppose that people in those countries probably can't afford to
> change computers as soon as here...
> 
> By the way, my university is still using Windows XP, so it is not
> "dangerous" (but of course we plan to change OS in 2014)
> And 1 year ago, the FF standard version insalled on staff computers
> was 3.6! (Now it is 10 or 17, I don't remember)
> From what I understood (that's not my part ;-) ), using fresher
> version of FF was not an easy task for our IT department, because FF
> was virtualized, and the older versions are somehow "lighter" than
> the recent ones.
> 

You're right, lets give it another 7 years before we upgrade (october
2006 it was released).

Chris

PS I wrote this using ae on my machine running linux 1.0. 

> Mathieu
> 
> 
> Le 11/12/2013 02:56, Paul A a écrit :
> >At 09:59 AM 12/11/2013 +1300, Liz Rea wrote:
> >
> >>On 11/12/13 05:40, Owen Leonard wrote:
> >>>> [4] Upgrade the version of Bootstrap we use to 3.x.
> >>> As I mentioned in IRC today the primary caveat for this goal is that
> >>> Bootstrap 3 says it "drops support for Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox
> >>> 3.6." However, it doesn't explicitly say what "dropping support"
> >>> means. If it means broken functionality, that is a problem for us. If
> >>> it means graceful degradation, that's more acceptable. I'll be doing
> >>> some investigation, but I think we need some opinions from others
> >>> about what level of support we need to offer for IE7 and FF 3.6.
> >>>
> >>>  -- Owen
> >>>
> >>(this is only my opinion, since you asked.)
> >
> >Mine too (and we're "small" so maybe near the bottom end of the
> >relevancy scale.)
> >
> >>IE 7 is only available in Windows XP, which is due to be end of life in
> >>April 2014.
> >
> >First, I really have no opinion on IE 7 thru 10 -- I do read the
> >stats on "market share", and I do have access (for webpage
> >verification purposes) of IE8, but that's it...
> >
> >>Any changes we make for this cycle won't be released until
> >>after XP is EOL. [snip] XP is an outdated, and dangerous
> >>operating system to be
> >>running.
> >
> >We're all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours. However
> >XPPro SP2,[1] properly set up (with a *user* account, never go
> >on-line with admin privileges) is not "dangerous."  EOL, maybe,
> >but I feel that Koha is gaining ground in (excuse me if I'm not
> >PC) less developed countries where quite frankly older o/s abound
> >for whatever reasons.
> >
> >Upgrading Koha to deny XP (and I'm not at all sure that's what's
> >being proposed) might be cutting off our noses to spite our face.
> >
> >>It should be noted that it was discovered that bootstrap 3 sites, though
> >>not officially supported in FF 3.6, still seem to look and work OK.
> >
> >For the record, I still have (no time to rebuild) half a dozen
> >"kiosks" that run FF3.6 under Win98SE (despite a whole bunch of
> >misinformation that it's not possible) -- the Koha OPAC is
> >visually perfect (3.8.5 near standard OPAC CSS) and very fast.
> >YMMV.
> >
> >Bottom line: bootstrap 3 is probably the right way to go, and
> >sooner rather than later ... but let's not forget that there are
> >probably hundreds of thousands, if not potentially millions, of
> >KohaOPAC users who are not as "up to date" with their boxes as we
> >might be...
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Paul
> >[1] I have two boxes running XPPro, installed 2001, upgraded SP2
> >2004 (both running IE8 since 2009). They have never, ever failed
> >in 12 years -- "bullet-proof" is a term that comes to mind. Note
> >that I have never used Vista, Win7 or Win8.
> >
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> 
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> Mathieu Saby
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