[Koha-devel] Architectural goals for 3.16

Wed Dec 11 12:27:19 CET 2013

I was just asking questions...
Some answers are here
http://gs.statcounter.com/

France:
Firefox 2.0    0.02
Firefox 3.0    0.06
Firefox 3.5    0.05
Firefox 3.6    0.28
IE 6.0    0.13
IE 7.0    0.94
=> total = 1.48% last month

Philippines:
Firefox 2.0    0.01
Firefox 3.0    0.05
Firefox 3.5    0.05
Firefox 3.6    0.62
IE 6.0    0.12
IE 7.0    0.72
=> total = 1.57% last month.

Nigeria:
Firefox 2.0    0.07
Firefox 3.0    0.81
Firefox 3.5    0.14
Firefox 3.6    1.02
IE 6.0    0.12
IE 7.0    0.2
=> total = 2.18% last month

Afghanistan
Firefox 2.0    0.04
Firefox 3.0    0.2
Firefox 3.1    0.01
Firefox 3.5    0.22
Firefox 3.6    0.51
IE 6.0    0.1
IE 7.0    0.28
=> total = 1.28% last month

Algeria:
IE 6.0    0.2
IE 7.0    0.39
Firefox 2.0    0.07
Firefox 3.0    1.01
Firefox 3.5    0.31
Firefox 3.6    1.47
=> total = 3.27% last month

And these figures will be even lower in 6 monthes
So If the data are correct, I suppose you are right, and support for 
those browsers could be safley dropped.

Mathieu

Le 11/12/2013 11:33, Chris Cormack a écrit :
> * Mathieu Saby (mathieu.saby at univ-rennes2.fr) wrote:
>> Hi
>> Do you know what is the share of FF 3.6 and IE 7 in Nigeria,
>> Philippines, Pakistan or Turkey?
>> I suppose that people in those countries probably can't afford to
>> change computers as soon as here...
>>
>> By the way, my university is still using Windows XP, so it is not
>> "dangerous" (but of course we plan to change OS in 2014)
>> And 1 year ago, the FF standard version insalled on staff computers
>> was 3.6! (Now it is 10 or 17, I don't remember)
>>  From what I understood (that's not my part ;-) ), using fresher
>> version of FF was not an easy task for our IT department, because FF
>> was virtualized, and the older versions are somehow "lighter" than
>> the recent ones.
>>
> You're right, lets give it another 7 years before we upgrade (october
> 2006 it was released).
>
> Chris
>
> PS I wrote this using ae on my machine running linux 1.0.
>
>> Mathieu
>>
>>
>> Le 11/12/2013 02:56, Paul A a écrit :
>>> At 09:59 AM 12/11/2013 +1300, Liz Rea wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/12/13 05:40, Owen Leonard wrote:
>>>>>> [4] Upgrade the version of Bootstrap we use to 3.x.
>>>>> As I mentioned in IRC today the primary caveat for this goal is that
>>>>> Bootstrap 3 says it "drops support for Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox
>>>>> 3.6." However, it doesn't explicitly say what "dropping support"
>>>>> means. If it means broken functionality, that is a problem for us. If
>>>>> it means graceful degradation, that's more acceptable. I'll be doing
>>>>> some investigation, but I think we need some opinions from others
>>>>> about what level of support we need to offer for IE7 and FF 3.6.
>>>>>
>>>>>   -- Owen
>>>>>
>>>> (this is only my opinion, since you asked.)
>>> Mine too (and we're "small" so maybe near the bottom end of the
>>> relevancy scale.)
>>>
>>>> IE 7 is only available in Windows XP, which is due to be end of life in
>>>> April 2014.
>>> First, I really have no opinion on IE 7 thru 10 -- I do read the
>>> stats on "market share", and I do have access (for webpage
>>> verification purposes) of IE8, but that's it...
>>>
>>>> Any changes we make for this cycle won't be released until
>>>> after XP is EOL. [snip] XP is an outdated, and dangerous
>>>> operating system to be
>>>> running.
>>> We're all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours. However
>>> XPPro SP2,[1] properly set up (with a *user* account, never go
>>> on-line with admin privileges) is not "dangerous."  EOL, maybe,
>>> but I feel that Koha is gaining ground in (excuse me if I'm not
>>> PC) less developed countries where quite frankly older o/s abound
>>> for whatever reasons.
>>>
>>> Upgrading Koha to deny XP (and I'm not at all sure that's what's
>>> being proposed) might be cutting off our noses to spite our face.
>>>
>>>> It should be noted that it was discovered that bootstrap 3 sites, though
>>>> not officially supported in FF 3.6, still seem to look and work OK.
>>> For the record, I still have (no time to rebuild) half a dozen
>>> "kiosks" that run FF3.6 under Win98SE (despite a whole bunch of
>>> misinformation that it's not possible) -- the Koha OPAC is
>>> visually perfect (3.8.5 near standard OPAC CSS) and very fast.
>>> YMMV.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: bootstrap 3 is probably the right way to go, and
>>> sooner rather than later ... but let's not forget that there are
>>> probably hundreds of thousands, if not potentially millions, of
>>> KohaOPAC users who are not as "up to date" with their boxes as we
>>> might be...
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Paul
>>> [1] I have two boxes running XPPro, installed 2001, upgraded SP2
>>> 2004 (both running IE8 since 2009). They have never, ever failed
>>> in 12 years -- "bullet-proof" is a term that comes to mind. Note
>>> that I have never used Vista, Win7 or Win8.
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Mathieu Saby
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Mathieu Saby
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Université Rennes 2
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