[Koha-devel] Architectural goals for 3.16

Wed Dec 11 13:38:12 CET 2013

On the ElasticSearch front, is there an RFC somewhere with some really
clear technical goals for the development stating what problems it hopes to
solve and how..?  I'de like to see these so the project gets as much
support as possible as I'de love to see it flourish to completion.  I'm
wondering if zebra should always continue for z3950/SRU as it's good at
that, and we should never intend on using ElasticSearch (which is much more
about keyword searching) for it?

Either way, I want to add my thanks for Brendan and Chris for getting this
move going.. if I can help at all with any of it give me a shout..

Martin Renvoize
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On 11 December 2013 11:27, Mathieu Saby <mathieu.saby at univ-rennes2.fr>wrote:

>  I was just asking questions...
> Some answers are here
> http://gs.statcounter.com/
>
> France:
> Firefox 2.0    0.02
> Firefox 3.0    0.06
> Firefox 3.5    0.05
> Firefox 3.6    0.28
> IE 6.0    0.13
> IE 7.0    0.94
> => total = 1.48% last month
>
> Philippines:
> Firefox 2.0    0.01
> Firefox 3.0    0.05
> Firefox 3.5    0.05
> Firefox 3.6    0.62
> IE 6.0    0.12
> IE 7.0    0.72
> => total = 1.57% last month.
>
> Nigeria:
> Firefox 2.0    0.07
> Firefox 3.0    0.81
> Firefox 3.5    0.14
> Firefox 3.6    1.02
> IE 6.0    0.12
> IE 7.0    0.2
> => total = 2.18% last month
>
> Afghanistan
> Firefox 2.0    0.04
> Firefox 3.0    0.2
> Firefox 3.1    0.01
> Firefox 3.5    0.22
> Firefox 3.6    0.51
> IE 6.0    0.1
> IE 7.0    0.28
> => total = 1.28% last month
>
> Algeria:
> IE 6.0    0.2
> IE 7.0    0.39
> Firefox 2.0    0.07
> Firefox 3.0    1.01
> Firefox 3.5    0.31
> Firefox 3.6    1.47
> => total = 3.27% last month
>
> And these figures will be even lower in 6 monthes
> So If the data are correct, I suppose you are right, and support for those
> browsers could be safley dropped.
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>
>
> Le 11/12/2013 11:33, Chris Cormack a écrit :
>
> * Mathieu Saby (mathieu.saby at univ-rennes2.fr) wrote:
>
>  Hi
> Do you know what is the share of FF 3.6 and IE 7 in Nigeria,
> Philippines, Pakistan or Turkey?
> I suppose that people in those countries probably can't afford to
> change computers as soon as here...
>
> By the way, my university is still using Windows XP, so it is not
> "dangerous" (but of course we plan to change OS in 2014)
> And 1 year ago, the FF standard version insalled on staff computers
> was 3.6! (Now it is 10 or 17, I don't remember)
> From what I understood (that's not my part ;-) ), using fresher
> version of FF was not an easy task for our IT department, because FF
> was virtualized, and the older versions are somehow "lighter" than
> the recent ones.
>
>
>  You're right, lets give it another 7 years before we upgrade (october
> 2006 it was released).
>
> Chris
>
> PS I wrote this using ae on my machine running linux 1.0.
>
>
>  Mathieu
>
>
> Le 11/12/2013 02:56, Paul A a écrit :
>
>  At 09:59 AM 12/11/2013 +1300, Liz Rea wrote:
>
>
>  On 11/12/13 05:40, Owen Leonard wrote:
>
>  [4] Upgrade the version of Bootstrap we use to 3.x.
>
>  As I mentioned in IRC today the primary caveat for this goal is that
> Bootstrap 3 says it "drops support for Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox
> 3.6." However, it doesn't explicitly say what "dropping support"
> means. If it means broken functionality, that is a problem for us. If
> it means graceful degradation, that's more acceptable. I'll be doing
> some investigation, but I think we need some opinions from others
> about what level of support we need to offer for IE7 and FF 3.6.
>
>  -- Owen
>
>
>  (this is only my opinion, since you asked.)
>
>  Mine too (and we're "small" so maybe near the bottom end of the
> relevancy scale.)
>
>
>  IE 7 is only available in Windows XP, which is due to be end of life in
> April 2014.
>
>  First, I really have no opinion on IE 7 thru 10 -- I do read the
> stats on "market share", and I do have access (for webpage
> verification purposes) of IE8, but that's it...
>
>
>  Any changes we make for this cycle won't be released until
> after XP is EOL. [snip] XP is an outdated, and dangerous
> operating system to be
> running.
>
>  We're all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours. However
> XPPro SP2,[1] properly set up (with a *user* account, never go
> on-line with admin privileges) is not "dangerous."  EOL, maybe,
> but I feel that Koha is gaining ground in (excuse me if I'm not
> PC) less developed countries where quite frankly older o/s abound
> for whatever reasons.
>
> Upgrading Koha to deny XP (and I'm not at all sure that's what's
> being proposed) might be cutting off our noses to spite our face.
>
>
>  It should be noted that it was discovered that bootstrap 3 sites, though
> not officially supported in FF 3.6, still seem to look and work OK.
>
>  For the record, I still have (no time to rebuild) half a dozen
> "kiosks" that run FF3.6 under Win98SE (despite a whole bunch of
> misinformation that it's not possible) -- the Koha OPAC is
> visually perfect (3.8.5 near standard OPAC CSS) and very fast.
> YMMV.
>
> Bottom line: bootstrap 3 is probably the right way to go, and
> sooner rather than later ... but let's not forget that there are
> probably hundreds of thousands, if not potentially millions, of
> KohaOPAC users who are not as "up to date" with their boxes as we
> might be...
>
> Best regards,
> Paul
> [1] I have two boxes running XPPro, installed 2001, upgraded SP2
> 2004 (both running IE8 since 2009). They have never, ever failed
> in 12 years -- "bullet-proof" is a term that comes to mind. Note
> that I have never used Vista, Win7 or Win8.
>
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