[Koha-devel] Koha users wiki page outdated, use HEA

[Martin Renvoize]

Somewhat confused by that comment...

* 1693 unnamed libraries.. I see lots of names here.. am i missing
something: https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries ?
* 35 really up to date.. t's useful to see the distribution of installed
versions.. the HA stats are fed directly from koha installs and as such are
automatically kept up to date. I don't really see what your point was there?
* It's easier to opt in to HEA than it is to manually add yourself to the
wiki pages (if you even know of the existence of the wiki pages)
* Clicking through to the library detail page in HEA shows all the
information and more doesn't it:
https://hea.koha-community.org/libraries/274 - If there's something missing
do feel free to request it's addition.

I would happily agree with Pauls proposed approach myself and I'd love to
see more use of HEA.. perhaps this would act as another little reminder of
HEA's existence and a drive to get more libraries to opt in.

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for.

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 08:54, Michael Kuhn <mik at adminkuhn.ch> wrote:

> Hi Paul
>
>  > someone pointed me the https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers
>  > page.
>
> Calling this page says: "There is currently no text in this page."
>
> Probably you meant https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Users and
> pages like https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/Europe
>
>  > The French libraries you can see here are so outdated that it's funny:
>  > most libraries are supposed to be in version 2.x, supported by me (not
>  > BibLibre. So more than 10 years old data...)
>  >
>  > Other pages are also highly outdated, almost nothing with the current
>  > version numbering schema. And now we have HEA (available since 3.18
>  > IIRC)
>
> Also in HEA I see there are 1'693 (unnamed) libraries listed, but only
> 35 of the area really up to date (meaning working woith Koha 18.05.00 or
> 18.05.01). Compared to the assumed 15'000 Koha libraries this is only
> 0.2% of all libraries that we can be sure of they are really up to date.
>
>  > I propose to:
>  >
>  >   * drop an email to all contacts saying "you're the contact for the
>  >     wiki page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers, the
>  >     information here is outdated, please activate HEA (<<some
>  >     explanations about hea>>)"
>  >   * update the wiki pages to add a big warn on top of each, saying
>  > "this page is outdated, see hea.koha-community.org")
>
> Not all information on this page is outdated - only the untended data is
> outdated. I feel personally responsible for some of the data and can
> affirm this data is not outdated.
>
>  > Any objection ?
>
> HEA however doesn't give the same information as the "Koha_Users" pages
> give. The users page shows
>
> * the country
> * the location
> * library type
> * library name (often with URL to the OPAC, most interesting to me - but
> if it's not there I can search for the OPAC URL in Google using the
> library's name)
> * and more information
>
> to very SPECIFIC libraries - all of which is missing in HEA since
> https://hea.koha-community.org/ gives just numbers numbers numbers but
> at least I can't imagine how to wisely interpret or use them in most
> cases since I am absolutely sure they are not representative. To me
> personally, the only halfway interesting thing about HEA is the page
> about the use of the system preferences
> https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences
>
> Best wishes: Michael
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