[Koha-translate] Some best practice questions for an upcoming translation to Swedish

Wed Aug 29 20:18:33 CEST 2012

Thanks for the help! All the info is helping me shape a plan on this:

Translating 3.10 seems to be the way to go and I think we will stick with just getting the opac up to date for the official release. Staff will be done during winter/spring and then just updating the new stuff to have 3.12 ship with a “complete” translation.

I did notice that you need to keep it up to date – we did the Opac a while back and new versions takes its toll on the translation.

I saw your idea to split the .po files to separate the interface and the help texts. I like it as it would help prioritizing the stuff people use every day. How much work would it be, and who decides?

It did help :)

Kind regards!
/Viktor Sarge

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Från: Fischer, Katrin [mailto:Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de]
Skickat: den 20 augusti 2012 11:29
Till: Hailuodon Kunnankirjasto; Sarge Viktor RK
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Ämne: RE: [Koha-translate] Some best practice questions for an upcoming translation to Swedish

Hi,

I think always starting translations with the newest version available is good advice. Those files will get updated for the next version, 3.x or 3.x.x.

You can update the files yourself too, if you want to start translations for 3.10 earlier. But because the template files are still changing until string freeze, it’s possible that some strings go fuzzy again or need to be retranslated.

To update files you need a branch/installation with current master. Change into the /misc/translator directory and run:
perl translate update <languagecode>

To install the files for testing you can run:
perl translate install <languagecode>

In my experience working offline with editors like Poedit can help for search/replace operations, because search works a bit better there. I also use the Poedit to find possible problems in the files, like missing placeholders %s.
If you work in a team, Pootle is better, because more people can work at the same time and there is no confusion about file versions.

I am not sure what to suggest about the timeframe for translating. It’s more or less a never ending task, as Koha moves on fast and we change the templates and add new features all the time.

String freezes and such are important when you want your files to be included in the release, but you can also finish the translation a bit later and download the files from Pootle manually. You only have to be a bit careful, because the files get updated with every bugfix release, so they always match the current stable release.

How many translations you have to do for each version varies. OPAC and prefs are normally not so much, staff can be quite a lot. The hardest part in my experience are the help files that are included in the staff po file - I have hope that we will find a better solution for this sometime in the future.

Hope this helps,

Katrin

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Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Some best practice questions for an upcoming translation to Swedish

Hi! My twocents here, i hope it helps,

·         Is offline translation more effective?
- depends on your habits and whole work flow idea. I, working alone on en->fi here, have found both quite similar in my eyes.

·         When should we translate to keep out of trouble with string freeze etc of new versions?
I understand that Koha 3.10 should arrive 22 november. Would that give us six months of peace to translate the intranet?
- That might be a good idea. Anyway the new translation project inherits something like 80% from the old version. And preferences can also be translated while waiting. And then when you get the terminology sorted in intranet, translating OPAC for patron's eyes is already right on tested, solid ground.

·         How much translation work does a new .X version usually introduce? Is translating 3.10 the best idea when go-live is something like spring 2013 or should we translate 3.12 instead?
In my shallow experience, something like 20%  The main problem in translation schedule is of course that you dont get the new files to translate until the new version is ready!! :)  Basically translate always the newest avilable, because the new templates for future versions are drawn from those. That way the work done won't get lost. UNLESS of course you for some reason have decided to hold onto a certain version number.

Kind regards

Thanks, likewise! I am glad to find you here. Keep up the good worrk!

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