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RE: [Koha-devel] New Koha Logo
by Anthony Youngman 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Logos are copyright too ... What I think you should do is look at how Tux is licenced - he's copyright too. Larry's page on Tux is http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/. I thought the licence actually said something about promoting linux - maybe that got dropped possibly by accident. And if anybody remembers the MS ads about how linux can mutate (c't magazine put them on the web for people to laugh at :-), did you wonder why the four penguins weren't take-offs of Tux? Because MS would have got slammed for copyright infringement if they'd tried. Larry's page on Tux is http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/. I thought the licence actually said something about promoting linux - maybe that got dropped possibly by accident. Actually, you might like to tie in with Paul Poulain's idea and say that the logo is copyright, but may be freely used and reproduced either with pukka Koha or by organisations that are part of Paul's "GIE". That way, you will end up a little bit like RedHat/WhiteBox linux - the two are identical but without RedHat's permission you can't use the name or Fedora, so you're both being true to Free Software's spirit - letting the software go free - but you're also protecting the name and logo of Koha - just like Linus protects the trademark linux and linux distributors protect their trademarks etc. Cheers, Wol -----Original Message----- From: koha-devel-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Rachel Hamilton-Williams Sent: 20 January 2005 04:33 To: MJ Ray Cc: Mike.Lake(a)uts.edu.au; koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] New Koha Logo > but please make a logo available under a free software > licence ASAP (GPL?) so that I can localise it as needed, like as > part of the koha release. I need some help on the whole "what license thing" - the situation I'm least keen on, is say the "egg" being associated with some other product/company name - ie becoming dissociated from Koha and attached to something else. IS that covered by the GPL type license? And I really wouldn't like the egg and the koha text to say be taken over by say www.koha.com - which I'm pretty sure is a bunch of hockey players. SO is that covered as well? I'm completely calm with the logo being used in whatever medium etc for the promotion of Koha - and changing colours/sizes - sticking in/over things etc is all fine (although I'll let you know if I see one that's ugly :-) SO I'll take your advice/thoughts on that. Am I being paranoid? Is this achievable etc etc. I'm not interested in protecting the logo for *katipo* but I really would like to protect it for *koha* - does that seem possible? Cheers Rachel **************************************************************************** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 8272 5300, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. ****************************************************************************

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Koha Spain
by Luis Arenaz 28 Jan '05

28 Jan '05

Hi all!, Koha Spain is still getting started, slowly ( a bit overwhelmed ) but moving on... We are getting ready here in Spain to launch Koha spain!, but we are trying to do some previous job ... get Spanish linux community in the know of koha, translations to Euskera, spanish (Spain ) and Catalan, and "IBERMARC" issues, get ourselves in the know of biblio general knowledge. Two questions: 1 - The translation "how-to" provided by AR, ¿is still working for Koha 2.2?. 2 - We need to make Koha support "IBERMARC", it seems to be quite similar to MARC21.¿some help on it?. Ah!, we think new branding is going to be very possitive to Koha. Luis

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General OPAC Inside page...
by Rachel Hamilton-Williams 24 Jan '05

24 Jan '05

HI Guys n Gals - http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album103/opacinside_styles_001?full=1 Inside page with "elements" on it - rather than for a specific page - are there any things I've missed? I haven't got a specific "space" for navigation that is "non koha" like links to general library pages but I figure for the vanilla version that's probably a good thing Look forward to your feedback Cheers R

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z3950 bug
by Greg Kuhnert 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

During a z3950 search, I find some servers respond with a not found message, and then I see stuff like: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line 142. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line 145. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line 150. DBD::mysql::st fetchrow failed: fetch() without execute() at /home/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line 151. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at /home/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line I notice that someone else has reported this problem, and the recommended solution was to increase a mysql timeout. I have tried increasing all mysql timeout values, but the problem still happens. Any advice appreciated Data from about page for version info: Koha version2.2.0 OS version ('uname -a')Linux retroroms.foreverchat.net 2.6.3-7mdk-p3-smp-64GB #1 SMP Wed Mar 17 15:34:39 CET 2004 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux Perl version5.008003 MySQL versionmysql Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.18, for mandrake-linux-gnu (i586) Apache versionServer version: Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.48 Server built: Jun 28 2004 15:45:14

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Virtual Hosts / document_root bug
by Greg Kuhnert 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

I was upgrading to the current version of KOHA earlier today, and I found a real nasty one. There are a number of places in the current code base that use $ENV{'DOCUMENT_ROOT'} For many people, this does not pose a problem. However, if you use apache with directives like those listed below, you might be in for a few problems. Here are the directives I am talking about: VirtualDocumentRoot /vhosts/%0/docs VirtualScriptAlias /vhosts/%0/cgi-bin The problem I have encountered is documented on the apache website: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/mass.html .... An extract is listed below... The other thing to `fake' is the document root (configured with |DocumentRoot| and available to CGIs via the |DOCUMENT_ROOT| environment variable). In a normal configuration this setting is used by the core module when mapping URIs to filenames, but when the server is configured to do dynamic virtual hosting that job is taken over by another module (either |mod_vhost_alias| or |mod_rewrite|) which has a different way of doing the mapping. Neither of these modules is responsible for setting the |DOCUMENT_ROOT| environment variable so if any CGIs or SSI documents make use of it they will get a misleading value. In other words, DOCUMENT_ROOT will point to the main document root of the web server, not for the virtual host that koha is installed under. End result: Koha is broken! I tried a workaround, and added "SetEnv DOCUMENT_ROOT "/vhosts/koha.no1.com.au/docs" to a .htaccess file, but that didnt help. I think apache prevents over-writing that env variable for security reasons. The long term fix is going to be to avoid using that environment variable.... If someone here has any better ideas on how to work around this, I'd love to hear from you. Greg

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Important information from the FLOSS ils world
by pat eyler 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

These folks were inspired by Koha, and have talked about sharing code/ideas. It would be good to try to keep current with what they're up to. open-ils blog » January Executive Committee Report http://open-ils.org/blog/index.php?p=17 -- -pate ------------------------- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate!

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New Koha Logo
by Rachel Hamilton-Williams 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Hi All, We're doing some promotional materials to take with us to Sydney at the end of next week, and we're also hoping to have another "skin" for Koha ready for that as well.... Which lead me to wanting a new logo - a refinement of the egg, which has got a bit away on us I think. SO I've been pretty bold I think - reduced the size of the egg/koru, and really integrated it with the Koha Name - and great big shock, after talking with some PR/Sales folks here, I've actually taken the words "Open Source" *and* "Free" our of the tag line, and left it at Library System. http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album103 So any thoughts? I was after a more "mature" look, now we are 5 :-) The Free/Open Source debate has raged on and off - and so a version with "free" in it would be possible I think if some would rather use that - here both are confusing which is why I was thinking of droping them - but again YMMV, so let me know and I'll do a couple of versions. The shape itself is the "white bit" of the original egg - so a development on the original logo, rather than a completely new one. The shape is a bit rough around the edges when you go big so I'll get that tidied up. Hokay, look forward to hearing from you - or put comments in the gallery cheers R

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Katipo is Visiting Sydney
by Rachel Hamilton-Williams 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Hi all Chris (original Koha Programmer), Russel (QA), and I (Kaitiaki) will be in Sydney in about 10 days time for a week... We are demonstrating Koha at the ONLINE Conference... http://conferences.alia.org.au/online2005/ And would love to see you if you're either going to be at the conference, OR if you're in Sydney and would like to meet us for dinner/drinks etc. We will be giving away free Koha installs at the event, so if you know anyone who wants one send them along. Cheers Rachel

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Re: [Koha-devel] New Koha Logo
by Owen Leonard 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

I'm not going to argue about what the best terminology is, and I don't think any of us necessarily should. I think we've already established that whatever term we use, it's language- specific and therefore should be left out of any official logo. Let's divert the discussion towards looking at the logo itself and deciding whether we like it, and if not what we would suggest be done differently. Whatever the outcome, hopefully we can then provide the logo in as many formats as possible (Photoshop, Freehand, Illustrator, etc.) so that folks can download and modify for their own use. -- Owen ---- Web Developer Nelsonville Public Library http://www.athenscounty.lib.oh.us

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RE: [Koha-devel] New Koha Logo
by Anthony Youngman 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Note that the acronym FOSS has an alternative (which I always use) of FLOSS - Free/Libre Open Source Source. So yes, I would support the use of the word Libre, and if people complain "that's French, and American is the universal language", I would respond with "It's not French, it's Latin" (which *was* the universal language). Cheers, Wol -----Original Message----- From: koha-devel-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Paul POULAIN Sent: 19 January 2005 09:23 To: Rachel Hamilton-Williams Cc: Koha-devel; Rebecca Holden Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] New Koha Logo > The Free/Open Source debate has raged on and off - and so a version with > "free" in it would be possible I think if some would rather use that - > here both are confusing which is why I was thinking of droping them - > but again YMMV, so let me know and I'll do a couple of versions. My opinion here : * the "free library system" sentence must be out of the logo. For translation purposes (worst : in french a "librairie" is a bookseller, a "library" is a "bibliotheque". A non translated word could be a real trouble for many ppl) * I heavily prefer having the word free in it. In french, it's "libre", and "libre" (=free as speach) is different from "gratuit" (=free as beer), so no risks here. And "free" is shorter than "open source" (in french like in english). And, last, "open source" is not enough. It should be written "open source in the Open Source Initiative sense". **************************************************************************** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 8272 5300, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. ****************************************************************************

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