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Searching Group Meeting Notes
by Joshua Ferraro 09 Aug '05

09 Aug '05

Hi everyone, Sorry I'm late in putting this out: Present: kados slef owen chris paul thd rach This is just the highlights. If you want to grok the issues you'll need to read the log: http://koha.org/cgi-bin/logs.pl?recall=recall&saved_query=Searching%20Meeti… 1 Started with a discussion of Zebra: using zebra as a plugin isn't a good idea because we don't want to maintain two koha searching apis we need to test Zebra to determine which option is best: zebra for all (need to test .. does this make circ slower) or zebra for biblio, database for item info paul will begin working on porting Biblio.pm to reindex zebra (to store status info in the MARC record and re-index zebra during circ) chris will work on writing a wrapper for opac searches kados will begin working on configuration of Zebra thd mentioned some problematic UNIMARC issues related to compound fields 2 slef and kados discussed CQL as a query front end. discussion will be moved to koha-devel 3 the discussion turned to opensearch. kados showed the opensearch demo http://liblime.com/opensearchportal.html the idea of federated searching and ILL using opensearch was discussed slef suggested looking at RDF rather than RSS2.0 the discussion will be moved to koha-devel -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter jmf(a)liblime.com | Full Demos at http://liblime.com | 1(888)KohaILS

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Translation
by Joshua Ferraro 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Hi all, OK ... this one's for the Web Site group and the Documentation Group. In bug 953, MJ requests that we setup a better translator's page complete with links to the latest .po files. Here's an example: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/community/translation Paul then pointed me to his site which is running on Kartouche, a communal translation tool: http://bureau.paulpoulain.com/kartouche/ Given the fact that many translators aren't going to be very tech savvy, I think we should make Koha translation web-based. That is, we should have a site where translators can go, setup a login, assign themselves a translation project, run the .po to get the English, and insert their language in text fields hitting submit when they are done ... so paul, can Kartouche facilitate this? Is there another software app that can? -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter jmf(a)liblime.com | Full Demos at http://liblime.com | 1(888)KohaILS

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Zebra Searching
by Joshua Ferraro 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Hi everyone, In case you haven't been following the IRC logs we've been discussing Zebra as a potential searching engine. From Indexdata's website: Zebra is a high-performance, general-purpose structured text indexing and retrieval engine. It reads structured records in a variety of input formats (eg. email, XML, MARC) and allows access to them through exact boolean search expressions and relevance-ranked free-text queries. Zebra supports large databases (more than ten gigabytes of data, tens of millions of records). It supports incremental, safe database updates on live systems. You can access data stored in Zebra using a variety of Index Data tools (eg. YAZ and PHP/YAZ) as well as commercial and freeware Z39.50 clients and toolkits. http://indexdata.dk/zebra I've setup a zebra test site running on LibLime's server. It currently has access to three Zebra datasets, Nelsonville's 150K records, LibLime's 5 million records (recently donated by sanspach), and Paul Poulain's 13K records. (Paul is still working out some issues with indexing unimarc records so stay tuned for that one to work). http://liblime.com/zap/advanced.html Note that the search and retrieval is done via the Z39.50 protocol with the server that ships with Zebra and both the index and the server can be customized based on the kinds of searches you want to perform (the above site is just a proof of concept) -- we'd have support for relevence ranking, stemming, the whole gambit of searching technologies. In all my tests searches are returned in under a second. If we decide to work with Zebra we will need to decide what to do with non-marc libraries. Should we develop an export utility that will allow Zebra to index the records (in say, XML format)? Should we use the Koha tables to create a basic MARC record for use with Zebra? Should we leave the Koha 1.x searching methods unchanged and only use Zebra for MARC libraries? Also, what should we do with the existing marc_*_table tables? So ... it's clearly time to schedule a "Koha 2.4 Searching Group Meeting" on IRC. I'd like to pick a time when everyone can be represented. how is Thursday, June 23 at 9:00 GMT? Here's the time in your area: http://tinyurl.com/925c8 Please let me know on-list if you will not be able to attend and what time you can attend. Comments, suggestions, concerns? -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter jmf(a)liblime.com | Full Demos at http://liblime.com | 1(888)KohaILS

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Website / ID Meeting Notes
by Joshua Ferraro 01 Jul '05

01 Jul '05

Meeting Notes for Website / Interface Design Meeting As always ... the meeting was logged at koha.org/irc Present: kados rach owen slef richard russ indradg shawn hdl (big meeting!!) 1. Koha.org Website We discussed Russ's report: http://www.russandsarah.gen.nz/kohawebredev/ a. folks need to look at the wireframes and give feedback to russ b. some feedback was given about objective and scope: opencms was introduced as a product: opencms.org some question was raised as to whether opencms or mambo would be a better choice mambo supports multiple languages and we're not sure if opencms does the koha team will be 'koha project managers' with bios, emails at koha.org, and maybe even images to lend credibility to the project librarians were defined as users a media link will be added under 'news' c. we want to support multiple languages eventually -- at first we'll do the site in english d. koha-fr.org will have to decide what to do if there are two french koha sites e. shaun will make the site WCAG compliant http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG f. the site will be mirrored by katipo and maybe by koha-fr and liblime too 2. Interface Design: a. we will design a set of 'programmer templates' -- minimalist templates with only the functions of that template displayed to ease template maintenance for our interface designers b. we will design a set of 'default templates' and the lead interface designer will be responsible for taking changes from the programmer templates and integrating those into the default templates c. we will establish a set of guidelines for committing new features to CVS that will ensure that programmers commit only to programmer templates and not to default templates -- so that the ID can ensure QA on those templates d. this does not mean that internal design groups can't maintain their own set of templates -- it simply means that when they commit the features to CVS they will commit a minimalist version of the feature to the programmer templates (and hopefully a good description of the feature) and leave the presentation up to the ID. e. the success of this method will depend on all the programmers playing nicely and committing their additions to the minimalist templates in addition to their own project templates -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter jmf(a)liblime.com | Full Demos at http://liblime.com | 1(888)KohaILS

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Meeting Reminder
by Joshua Ferraro 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi everyone, I'm back from ALA so I'll be sorting through my many e-mail messages and posting pics and news from the exhibit soon. Just a quick reminder that we've a Koha Website / Interface Design meeting today at 20:00 GMT. Here's the time in your area: http://tinyurl.com/d5jtz and here's the meeting agenda: http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/koha_wiki/index.php?page=AgendAndNotes05jun29 Please join us if you can and add items you'd like covered to the agenda. -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter jmf(a)liblime.com | Full Demos at http://liblime.com | 1(888)KohaILS

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NPL Reskinning
by Ben Goodger 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi, According to the last major meeting on #koha, Shaun has started working on reskinning the NPL templates, starting on the login screen. The changes are being commited live to CVS and can be viewed at http://kohacvs.shaunevans.co.uk - all comments and appraisal is/are welcome. -- ~ Ben Goodger (no, NOT the Firefox developer) ~ Please remember to FLOSS daily. ~ www.getfirefox.com

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Updater : proposition.
by Henri-Damien LAURENT 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

Looking at updater/updatedatabase, it looks like a real mess.... Especially if we think about all the big advances we shall make with the next version , would it be called 2.4 or 3.0 ;)))). So we propose that we could assume that from now on, in head version updater should take on the evolution from version 2.2 to 3.0 and give up all the evolution from 1.2 to 2.2 which would make it too big and too messy to be really maintainable. If nobody needs such a big file any longer, we shall change it. Thanks. -- Henri-Damien LAURENT

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FreeBSD Port
by Jared Camins-Esakov 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Hello all. I am new to Koha (haven't even installed it yet!), so my apologies if this subject has already come up. I am a FreeBSD user, and I noticed that Koha is not available in the FreeBSD ports tree. Installing Koha appears to be fairly straightforward, but I figure if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it right and make a FreeBSD port. My question, therefore, is: has anyone ported Koha to the FreeBSD ports system? If so, does anyone know how I can get a copy of the Makefile? Also, are there any patches that FreeBSD users have found it necessary to apply? Any chance I could get my hands on those as well? Thanks in advance. -- Jared Camins-Esakov P.S. For those who don't know, the FreeBSD ports system uses Makefiles that are NOT a part of the software package that is being installed. I am not asking about any Makefiles that might be included in the Koha distribution. -- Jared Camins-Esakov E-mail: camins2(a)tcnj.edu

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Thai developer
by vasu k 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

hello every body i am interested to utiliztion koha in thai language for independent study in graduate for MSIT pls guide me for develop my idea 1. chnage UI from en to thai(change DB call th) 2. Edit Code Update Thai record (Now i test add thai record ,i can search view in thai but data in DB can' show thai record example i add "วสุเทพ" DB show "ข&#3640") 3. Stop Thai word pls help me and I don't know you planing to release Koha version ? pls tell me too

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New documents on kohadocs.org
by Stephen Hedges 22 Jun '05

22 Jun '05

I gives me great pleasure to announce our first Spanish-language document on www.kohadocs.org: 'Traducción de Templates de KOHA' by Martin Longo (also available in English, 'KOHA's Template Translation'). This is also our first document about templates. You'll find it in section 2.3, System Administration > Templates. -- Stephen Hedges Skemotah Solutions, USA www.skemotah.com -- shedges(a)skemotah.com

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