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Re: [Koha-devel] template system abuse
by Robert Flach, Poet and Critic 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

I don't do a lot of hacking on koha, and I've never submitted a patch, though I do use it and am an avid follower of the development list. (I am a web application developer by trade though). So take this for what it's worth. It's a bad idea to generate ANY HTML in the code. Keep the presentation in the presentation layer (templates). No matter how obvious or useful a particular choice may seem now, it will cause you heartache down the road. Regarding the select box, Imagine that I as a template designer wanted to substitute a column of checkboxes or radio buttons for the select box. With the proposal below it would be impossible, yet that is merely a matter of presentation which should be able to be changed only by modifying the templates. Adequate objections have already been made to the fully constructed url. Good luck, and thank you all for a great, robust product. Keep making it more robust, don't make it less. Sincerely, Robert Flach Owen Leonard wrote: >> and in template: >> >> href="" >> > > Paul's point is the same as I would like to make: using this method removes > the option for the template designer to use a form instead of a link. What > about leaving both options open? Have the script create the URL variable > but also make all the individual variables available for use? > > >>  >> <option value="" ></option> >>  >> > > Paul, is this method translator-safe? I thought you had had difficulties > in the past with constructions like this? > > In both cases, past practices have colored my attitude towards these > practices: Any time the script generates HTML, you run the risk of no > complying with the standard chosen by the template designer. This was a > problem when we were transitioning between HTML and XHTML. If we can all > agree on complying with XHTML transitional (at least), we just need to > follow the rules: > > URLs which are generated by the script must include proper encoding of > ampersands (& instead of &) > > "selected" attributes generated by the script must follow the rules of no > implied attributes: selected="selected" > > So it comes down to three suggestions from me: > > 1. Make options available to the template designers. > 2. Ensure that generated markup is XHTML compliant > 3. Find out if we're breaking the translator script :) > > -- Owen > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha-devel mailing list > Koha-devel(a)nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel >

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KohaCon (may 2nd & 3rd) notes & questions
by Paul POULAIN 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

Hello all, Some quick questions/notes : * 52 persons registred for May 2nd, 32 for May 3rd (excluding all of us) * With all those subscriptions to the devWeek, the ppl coming to the 2 days in Paris are now unclear to me. could katipo/liblime/ccfls remind me who will be with us on may 2nd & 3rd. * The meeting will be registered on a videotape (VHS). Does someone from us have the tools to transfer it to a mpg4 or something that can be put on the net ? * As planned, on May 2nd, speakers only eat together in a chinese restaurant, while on May 3rd, we will all eat in a french restaurant ("all" means everybody : users as well as speakers) (ps for joshua : both with vegetarian food, of course) -- Paul POULAIN et Henri Damien LAURENT Consultants indépendants en logiciels libres et bibliothéconomie (http://www.koha-fr.org)

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KohaCon Programme Is Online
by Russel Garlick 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

Hi everyone, KohaCon Programme Is Online Read online at http://www.koha.org In 10 days the first Koha Conference will take place in Paris, France. The programme for the Discover Koha day on May 2nd and Koha User Group day on May 3rd have now been published on koha.org. PROGRAMMES The programme for each day at Koha Con is available at http://www.koha.org. * Discover Koha May 2nd http://www.koha.org/community/conferences/discoverkoha.html * Koha User Group May 3rd http://www.koha.org/community/conferences/usergroup.html Speakers will be presenting in their native language, translations in French and English will be available. NOT TO LATE TO REGISTER Registrations close on April 25th. We have had strong interest from the Koha community, but there are still a few seats available on both days. Register online today http://www.koha.org/community/conferences/registration.html STREAMING VIDEO OF PRESENTATIONS For those of you not able to attend, links to streaming video of the presentations will be available on koha.org. We will endeavor to get these up as soon as we can during the conference. That's all for now! Looking forward to seeing you at KohaCon 06! Cheers -- Russel Garlick Operations Manager Katipo Communications Ph: +64 4 934 1285 Fax: +64 4 934 1286 Mob: +64 27 537 1377 Skype: russelgarlick Web http://www.katipo.co.nz

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devWeek (programme proposal)
by Paul POULAIN 23 Apr '06

23 Apr '06

Hi all, On wiki.koha.org, you'll find a devweek page, trying to prepare a little our week. Everybody coming at the devWeek should look at it, and annotate it if needed. Joshua already read it, and seems to think it's a good plan. If you all agree, you could also tell us which sub-group you would like to join. -- Paul POULAIN et Henri Damien LAURENT Consultants indépendants en logiciels libres et bibliothéconomie (http://www.koha-fr.org)

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german translation needed?
by das.t 23 Apr '06

23 Apr '06

hello & good day to everybody koha ... ;-) i am new in here & would like to ask: is there an insitiative to translate koha into german? i would like to either do that or pariticipate. this way i hope to get to know the software and find ways to do other work later. i would be glad to become a part of koha. ;-) (by the way, i understand koha3 is on the way, is there a release date yet?) a sort introduction: i am a librarian with quite some interest in it stuff and open source. currently i am not able to program, therefore i need other ways to help, but i am planning to learn. if you want to know more about my interests you might visit my (still beta) homepage at www.tonstrom.de. unfortunately i cannot participate in the kohacon. greetings, tobias

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german translation needed?
by tobs 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

hello & good day to everybody koha ... ;-),,i am new in here & would like to ask: is there an insitiative to translate koha into german? i would like to either do that or pariticipate. this way i hope to get to know the software and find ways to do other work later.,i would be glad to become a part of koha. ;-),(by the way, i understand koha3 is on the way, is there a release date yet?),,a sort introduction: i am a librarian with quite some interest in it stuff and open source. currently i am not able to program, therefore i need other ways to help, but i am planning to learn.,if you want to know more about my interests you might visit my (still beta) homepage at www.tonstrom.de.,,unfortunately i cannot participate in the kohacon.,,greetings,,,tobias

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new Koha & koha-translate ?
by Serhij Dubyk 22 Apr '06

22 Apr '06

Hello In which state preparation of update version (2.2.6 or 2.4)? What's about with support of Ukrainian (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/koha-announce/2006-01/index.html)? Serhij Dubyk, Lviv, Ukraine

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acquisitions redesign
by Pierrick LE GALL 21 Apr '06

21 Apr '06

Hi koha-devel, Wanting to fix bug 285 (which is not one on HEAD) I've played today with the acquisition module. I must admit I've found it confusing. There are terminology incoherence (basket/order are used at wrong place for instance). I've found complicated to "search a supplier" to add an order to a "still not existing" basket :-/ So I propose to redesign Acquisitions. Only screens, not C4::Acquisitions or data model, only ergonomy. - on the main page, having the following links: - pending suggestion lists - supplier list - basket list - order list - funds and budgets management - currencies management and still on the main page, the "Help" box already existing in 2.2 - "list" link would have an associated page. The lists are HTML tables with filter capability. On the supplier line of acqui/supplier.pl we would have a link "show baskets" to a filtered list on acqui/basket.pl and "show orders" to a filtered list on acqui/order.pl. On the basket line of acqui/basket.pl... you see what I mean. - on each page we would have a link to "Add a supplier", "Add a basket"... - most important of all is the mecanism to add an order to a basket. Here is what I would find a better way : 1. the connected user selects an opened basket 2. if the connected user has an opened basket, the pending suggestion list, the search.marc/search.pl and MARCdetail.pl pages would have a link to order the selected biblio. As the catalogue is currently broken on my HEAD copy (zebra issues) I would be able to code only the adding of orders from pending suggestions, as long as catalogue is broken. What is your opinion about my suggestions? Bye -- Pierrick LE GALL INEO media system

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first bug squashing party of 2006, april
by Pierrick LE GALL 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

Hi Koha development team, Let's try to organize a Bug Squashing Party on 2006, april 18th (tuesday) 13:00 GMT. This hour won't let new zealand participate but Ohio, France, England and Turkey should be more available. Is it OK? Who will be attending? Cheers, -- Pierrick LE GALL INEO media system

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devWeek in Marseille, quick question
by Paul POULAIN 19 Apr '06

19 Apr '06

Hello, a quick question to everybody coming to Marseille for the devWeek : who comes with it's own computer (I hope almost everybody) ? who has wifi ? (answer by pm if you prefer, I ask koha-devel to avoid missing someone ;-) ) -- Paul POULAIN et Henri Damien LAURENT Consultants indépendants en logiciels libres et bibliothéconomie (http://www.koha-fr.org)

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