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Re: koha español...
by Pat Eyler 28 May '03

28 May '03

On Wed, 28 May 2003 Pablo.Reyes-cabrera(a)lium.univ-lemans.fr wrote: > Hello, > i have a problem with the subscription.... Ahh, it seems there was a small misconfiguration that affected incoming mail from external servers. If you've previously tried to subscribe and it hasn't worked, please try again ... everything should be fine now. -pate > > pAblO > > > Hola Javier, > There are a couple of groups working on a spanish translation of Koha > right now. Since interest seems to be growing, I've started a mailing > list to coordinate the work. > > If anyone is interested in joining the mailing list, please send an email > to: > koha-subscribe(a)es.koha.org > > and follow the instructions you recieve in return. >

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tropheesdulibre => more complete news.
by paul POULAIN 28 May '03

28 May '03

Hi, As some persons asked for more informations aroudn tropheesdulibre, here are some. 1st of all, i put a scanned trophy. As you can see, it's awful. It's due to the fact that it's done in plexiglass, on 3 differents parts, for 10cm depth. quite hard to scan, I couldn't do better, sorry. 1st of all, I arrived 1 day before the ceremony. It was quite a good idea : I met some really nice hackers from other projects, and some ppl involved in free software. We went to bed at 11:30PM, and 3 of us stayed till 1AM to install the new-top-wonderful-wifi-card-with-pcmcia_ps-patched-kernel. I went to bed :-) Then, it was time for the "tropheesdulibre" day... Around 250 persons were here. Many hackers, with debian of deCss t-shirts, and many businessmen too. 9:00 -> 9:30 : RMS evangelist was here to say once more that freedom was more important than anything else (I must admit that even if I have respect for RMS, I think that his speech was not productive for business men/women). 9:30->10:30 : roberto DiCosmo had a very interesting speech (i think everybody know this guy ? In france, he's well known anyway). something around "why will free software win". 11:00-> 12:30 : time with journalists. With a very very interesting speech from M. Lang, french scientist from CNRS, about free software economy. To resume, he said "when you share something like your bred, you loose some. but when you share your software, you earn more than you loose". 12:30-> 14:00 : time for lunch. With lot of alcool I didn't drink (alcool makes me ill) :-) 14:00-> 16:00 : time for trophy. I don't think it was a nice ceremony. Some interesting speechs, but the interviewer asked always the same questions. 16:00-> 18:00 : eating again :-) 18:00-> ... trying to go back home. But my 1st train was late, so I failed to have my 2nd one and had to stay in Paris for the night. My experience : I met some really interesting ppl : * The hacker that works on abuledu : a specific linux distro based on mandrake, that is builded for french schools. He plans to add Koha on AbulEdu in the near future. * Some journalists that will write a paper about Koha. They work on very specific news that are only for public agencies. So it's really more interesting than being in linuxworld or something like that. * A company that is involved only in free software, and has some contacts with public agencies libraries. As a conclusion : it was a very interesting meeting for business purposes for me. And we won !!! I have to say many thanks to steve that subscribed for all of us :-) An important news, about something else : In France, there is a very famous and important customer association (UFC-Que choisir). They announced yesterday that they attacked in justice (approximative translation...) 5 "majors" (EMI Music France, Warner Music France, Universal Pictures Vidéo, Auchan, FNAC) because of their copy-protection on recent CD that makes them unuseable on some recent equipements. It's the 1st stage of a more global lobbying action against the EUCD (european version of dmca) UFC is a very important association here in France : every radio or TV news speaks of this action. they have a very good press-relation manager. The court decision will occur at end of june. UFC is known to attack only when sure to win. -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)

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Re: [Koha-devel] More about templates
by Owen Leonard 27 May '03

27 May '03

> Michael W. Hansen wrote: > > The best thing that I can think of off the top > of my head would be > >to go the SourceForge Web CVS browser and look > at the diffs between the > >version you started from and the current version Back in six months! :) Paul wrote: > We agree that's not a really nice method. We're > thinking about tools to > help checking the differences. I'm glad to hear it's an issue under consideration. I'd love to hear more about the solutions being considered. Maybe some discussion will prompt some movement on the issue? -- Owen

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Re: [Koha] Koha in Spanish????
by Pat Eyler 26 May '03

26 May '03

Hola Javier, There are a couple of groups working on a spanish translation of Koha right now. Since interest seems to be growing, I've started a mailing list to coordinate the work. If anyone is interested in joining the mailing list, please send an email to: koha-subscribe(a)es.koha.org and follow the instructions you recieve in return. As far as what needs to be done, the html templates can be translated (this is a pretty straightforward issue), specific features of interest to the spanish community need to be specified and developed, and a spanish speaking Koha community needs to be developed. The third item is likely the hardest, and can be addressed on the koha(a)es.koha.org mailing list. I'll try to hang out there, pero yo hablo un pocito espanol. mucho gusto, -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org On Mon, 26 May 2003, JAVIER RICARDO MEJIA C. wrote: > Hi, I�m Javier want to kwon is exist a version of Koha in Spanish ??? > or what can i do for change the lenaguaje???? > > > Thanks, > Javier >

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Re: MyLibrary & Koha
by Eric Lease Morgan 26 May '03

26 May '03

On 5/15/03 9:47 AM, Nicolas Morin <nicolas.morin(a)scd.uhp-nancy.fr> wrote: > How could Koha and MyLibrary come together? ... We have many oss building > blocks : there's no way Koha is going to become something like Millenium, but > MyLibrary + Koha + DSpace + OpenILL, etc... could soon provide something not > too far from it. For that to happen they would have to have the ability to > work together perfectly and also, I feel, to appear under one unifying > "umbrella" (OSS4LIB?) that would make this "de-centralized" system visible and > credible to librarians and library managers. What should we do to achieve > these strategic goals? I don't know. Perfect interoperability between the > various oss projects I guess. Maybe XML, SOAP and web services are the way > forward? Maybe developpers from the various projects could come up with > something like a "roadmap for interoperability"? On 5/15/03 2:04 PM, Pat Eyler <pate(a)eylerfamily.org> wrote: > I'm working on an idea in Koha which might fit well with what you're doing ... > > I've created an engine to extract data from Koha and syndicate it with RSS > (0.91). It's pretty simple, and very extensible. You can look at it here: > http://www.kohalabs.com/rss/ -- for small values of looking at it Nicolas and Pat, I think your ideas are very exciting, and I hope you don't mind me sharing my reply with wider audiences. Like other people, I believe the present implementations of integrated library systems are overly monolithic and represent "black boxes" when it comes to interoperability. For a long time I have thought about "rethinking the integrated library system." Now these ideas are being expressed in forums such as OSS4Lib as well the smaller OCKHAM group: http://ockham.library.emory.edu/ In fact, the OCKHAM group has submitted an NSF proposal to address just these issues. Only time will tell whether or not the proposal is accepted. IMHO, there are three technical ways to make things like Koha and MyLibrary (as well as other library-related software) work better together: 1) common application program interfaces (APIs) - APIs center around particular computer programming languages. There are Perl APIs, Java APIs, PHP APIs, etc. This approach is easy to implement if everybody were to agree on the programming language. Not likely. This approach is also prone to operating system dependences. Sort of limiting. 2) common file formats - The sharing of common file formats has a proven track record. MARC records are an excellent example. The use of one or more XML vocabularies (RSS/RDF, MARCXML, EAD, etc.) represent the more modern and more flexible formats of today. The sharing of common file formats is not dependent on a network as well as opens the door for storing and archiving data/information. Like the written word, common file formats transcend space and time, but they are not necessarily accessible in the here and now. 3) common network protocols - Common network protocols have made the Web what it is today. None of what we do would be possible without things like DNS, SMTP, FTP, and HTTP. Network protocols are essentially sharing data via conversations between computers taking place at a specific time and a specific place. They are operating system independent and immediate, but utterly dependent on a fragile, ever-present, working Internet connection. As Nicolas mentions above, network protocol techniques such as Web services seem to offer a lot of potential. As Pat demonstrates RSS version 0.91 files can be the content shared via a Web Service, such as a SOAP envelope. This is very similar to the framework described in the OCKHAM NSF proposal. In this proposal a light-weight reference model will be borrowed, modified and/or articulated -- essentially an XML vocabulary -- that will be used as the common language for sharing data/information between library services and modules. These services will then publicize their availability on a peer-to-peer network. Other peers (clients) will identify required services by first querying the network. Peers will then exchange data/information via some sort of Web Service and the XML vocabulary. Many of the tools necessary to make these ideas a reality already exist such as JXTA for the peer-to-peer networking and SOAP for the Web Service. What we need to do is two things. First we need to enhance our software so it can operate as a Web Service. While not necessarily trivial, this process is well documented and supported by lot o' API's. Second, and more importantly, we need to agree on a file format/XML vocabulary to encode our data into. This is the hard part. We need to borrow, modify, or articulate a data structure that will hold the data/information we want to exchange. Based on my knowledge, I advocate using RDF. RSS (RDF Site Summary) 1.0 is a particular implementation of RDF: RDF Site Summary (RSS) is a lightweight multipurpose extensible metadata description and syndication format. RSS is an XML application, conforms to the W3C's RDF Specification and is extensible via XML-namespace and/or RDF based modularization. http://web.resource.org/rss/1.0/ The nicest things about RDF is it extensibility. By defining any number of additional XML namespaces, it is possible to encode many types of information into a single XML file/stream. For example, it is possible to include Dublin Core, RSS, or a made-up namespace (such as a MyLibrary name space as I have done) for the purposes of encoding the necessary data/information. I've done this in a minor way as illustrated and briefly described here: http://dewey.library.nd.edu/mylibrary/rdf/ I think the things outlined above are entirely possible. Again, the hard parts would be integrating a Web Service into our applications and agreeing on an XML vocabulary. The Web Services are well documented and can be implemented through existing program (PHP, Perl, Java, etc.) libraries. The really hard part would be agreeing on the XML vocabulary. This agreement will only come after lots o' discussion and communication. Comments are desired, and what are our next steps? -- Eric Lease Morgan Head, Digital Access and Information Architecture Department University Libraries of Notre Dame (574) 631-8604

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Some thoughts heading to 2.0
by Mike Mylonas 26 May '03

26 May '03

As we head towards to 2.0 release, I have a couple of thoughts and ideas that I wanted to share. These thoughts were based around doing an install of 1.9.3 (many thanks to all especially Paul and Mike Hansen for the effort they have put in). Templates & Translations ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Currently the distribution comes with a few different templates, and hopefully as we finialise 2.0 more translations. One thought that I had was to seperate out the different Templates and Translations into seperate installable files, so that Koha itself is only distributed with the default templates in english. If we can make subsequent files available ie default-fr-1.9.3.tar.gz for the french default etc (please note that I am not picking on the French, I am just using it as an example), etc then people can install and configure the translations as they need them, this would also allow the translation teams a little more time to get the translations complete without holding up the main releases. The same could also be done for new templates ie. vanilla-en-1.9.3.tar.gz. This may encourage people to add new Templates, to the point of we could possible have a themes.koha.org etc. I am intested in peoples comments and opinions, please refrain from flaming the list, but all flames will be accepted via private mail. Cheers Mike M

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Changes to borrowers table in 1.9.3
by Stephen Hedges 26 May '03

26 May '03

I notice that the borrowers table in ver. 1.9.3 has been altered to include columns for postal codes. But the old columns (ver. 1.9.2) for password, flags and userid are gone. How do we save passwords from our old system to allow people to login to Koha? (In other words, where does Koha now store the userid and password?) Stephen Hedges Director, Nelsonville Public Library 95 W. Washington St., Nels.,OH 45764 (740) 753-2118 fax (740) 753-3543

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More about templates
by Owen Leonard 26 May '03

26 May '03

I've been working on an NPL version of the intranet template for a couple weeks now, and I'm faced with a conundrum now that 1.9.3 is out: What's the best way to 'upgrade' the custom templates I've got? Am I simply faced with the tedious job of going through and comparing the new files to my custom files? Is this a problem that can only be addressed in the future, making these upgrades easier? Either way, I'd love to hear any suggestions anyone has. -- Owen ---- Nelsonville Public Library Koha 1.9.3

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submit.x, logout.x
by Thien Ho 26 May '03

26 May '03

Hello, In some script there are variable names ending with ".x", ".y". Is there any special meaning for that? It's quite unusual to name a variable that way. Please don't take offense. I just try to understand... Thanks a lot, Thien ctho(a)sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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Re: [Koha] Introduction and qustions
by Pat Eyler 26 May '03

26 May '03

On Thu, 15 May 2003, Andrew Koebrick wrote: > Greetings, > Hi Andrew, > I am attempting to migrate a @10,000 item catalog into Koha 1.9.2 and > would greatly appreciate a little help. I'm CC:ing this to the koha-devel list ... you're more likely to get answers to technical questions about 1.9.2 there. > > This migration is neccessary due to budget cuts here in Minnesota. Our > state agency library was "cut" (i.e. no funding for our previous catalog > system, PALS; our full time librarian layed off; books to be distributed > to work teams). Rather than just throw out what was a quality catalog, > my plan is to load the records into Koha and attempt to maintain basic > collection management on the subset of books kept. > > I have a fair amout of Library/Perl/Mysql/Apache experience (I moved > from Agency librarian to Web Coordinator/Developer a few years back: > www.mnplan.state.mn.us) and hope to reach a point where I understand > Koha well enough to contribue code. It sounds like you'll be able to start contributing fairly quickly. > > But first I have to get up and running... I've not worked enough with 1.9.2 to help with this, so I'll leave these to some of the other developers to help with. > > As a test I have uploaded a collection of MARC records to the breeding > farm (the LOC MarcMaker/Breaker test files). It notes that 8 records > were successfully uploaded. However, I am not able to get them into the > catalog either by ISBN or title. Is this feature functional yet? > > When I click on " Add biblio without ISBN/ISSN" I get a list of the > numbers 1-10. Clicking on all available links appear to do nothing. > What should this page do/display? > > Has anyone tweeked bulkmarcimport.pl yet for the 1.9 series? Or are > the tables structures betwen the 1.2 and 1.9 series different enought > that the most efficient way to proceed with mass import would be to > create a new script based around the NEWnewbibilio() function? > > Finally, if Koha 2.0 would solve any/many of these issues I can wait. > Is there an estimated data of release? Koha 2.0.0 should solve most/all of your problems ... we don't have a firm release date for it yet, but we certainly do have a lot of motivation to get it out the door quickly. There are 81 bug reports left in the queue (thought more might be added if we find them along the way), most of those need to be closed before 2.0.0 goes out the door. (I'll leave the divination of a release date to Paul, the 2.0 release manager.) I do expect 1.9.3 to be released next week, and this should help smooth out some of your issues. > > Thank you for any assistance in adopting Koha. > Thanks for getting involved. Welcome to the team, -pate > > > Andrew Koebrick > Web Coordinator/Librarian > MN-Planning (Office of Strategic and Long Range Planning) > 658 Cedar St., Suite 300 > St. Paul, MN 55155 > > 651-296-4156 phone > 651-296-3698 fax > > www.mnplan.state.mn.us > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >

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