July 2002 - Koha-devel - lists.koha-community.org

Re: What about the mail Archives ?
by Pat Eyler 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Olugbenga Adara wrote: > Hello Pate, > > Thanks for the nice work you did at koha.org website. > But i could not find a link to download the mailing > list archives again. Please can you give me a URL > where i can get the archives? Access to the Internet > is expensive here so the archives saves me some money > rather than browse yahoo online. Thanks for the compliment, but I did very little work (a bit of writing and some editing.) You can get to the archives at: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/ for the general list, and at: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/9972/0/ for the koha-devel lists > > Also how do i get the koha bug fixes? The list just > mentions cvs but i dont know much about this. Also > maybe the patches may be posted to sourceforge or do > we upgrade with the latest release ? > cvs is the best way to get bug fixes. barring that, you can download the new tarballs. It might make sense for us to start shipping patches as well (to help people like you.) > I wish to contribute on documentation for koha. i had > a mail from the doc editor some few days back which i > replied but i've heard nothing yet. > You should hear from Nicholas shortly .... > Some good news. I have successfully installed koha > 1.2.1 at the Hezekiah Oluwasanmi Library of the > Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Nigeria. It is > presently being evaluated by the library staff. They > hope to have 300,000 items in Koha when it finally > goes live. Though best way of getting this into koha > is my current problem. > There are some bulk transfer scripts, I'm not sure how much they will do for you, but it may be worth checking through the archive. > Once again, thanks for the great work on koha On behalf of *many* other people, you're quite welcome. -pate > > ===== > Olugbenga Adara MCP > Consultant, 3om Services, > 75, Lebanon Street, Dugbe, > Ibadan, Nigeria. > Tel: 234-2-2412090 > Mobile: 234-803-3220288 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com >

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1.2.3RC4
by Tonnesen Steve 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

1.2.3RC4 fixes the problems caused by Koha.pm and Database.pm depending on each other in 1.2.3RC2. Steve.

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RE: [Koha] Installation (fwd)
by Pat Eyler 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

There are also some people (in .au?) that ware working on Koha on Win32. If you guys would like to compare notes on the koha-devel list, we'd be glad to have you. thanks, -pate ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:10:44 +1200 From: Andrew Hooper <telomere(a)iconz.co.nz> To: 'micheas' <micheas(a)micheas.dyns.net>, 'Martin Kinyua' <MKinyua(a)amrefhq.org> Cc: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE: [Koha] Installation Hi Micheas (and all) I have been working on a port of Koha onto NT/200/XP for a while now Progress was delayed while I waited for Koha 1.2 to be released and for development to generally stabilize. I have been considering starting work on the project again now and have even been able to allocate a spare machine for the task. I will send, as soon as I'm able, an interim report on my experiences to-date. I have made some quite good progress. With: Perl on NT IIS as the web-server My-SQL as the database I have also been tinkering with converting the entire Perl code-base into ASP and converting the SQL-DDL etc over to SQL-Server - progress is a little slower in this area. The versions of Perl and Mysql are so good, that I've been less inclined to tackle this area right now. (<Win/Advocacy>) I happen to work for Microsoft, but this is entirely a private project connected with a 5k+ volume Theological Library with my church. I'm just much more comfortable with the Win32 platform - I did try on RedHat but found the whole platform (esp Apache etc) so different that I was wasting a lot of Library/Koha time on purely platform issues...) Please do write with any experience you've already had - I'd be been to compare notes and start a thread on this topic. All the best Andrew Hooper -----Original Message----- From: koha-admin(a)lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-admin@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of micheas Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 5:40 p.m. To: Martin Kinyua Cc: 'koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz' Subject: Re: [Koha] Installation On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 23:37, Martin Kinyua wrote: > Has anyone out there installed KOHA onto windows 98/2000 etc ? Please let me > know. > Not that I've heard of. > Where can I get the installation instructions > I would install: A web server. (http://www.apache.org is what I would go with. You will find other users more able to help you. MySQL http://www.mysql.com CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) http://www.cpan.org ) Perl http://www.perl.org A C compiler. (Visual C++ is probably your best bet. but you might be able to get gcc and cygwin to work.) YAZ http://www.indexdata.dk/yaz/ (This a library that you must compile yourself according to the website it has only been tested on windows with Visual C++ ) From CPAN you will need to install: Date::Manip DBI Set::Scalar DBD::mysql # or whatever database system you use CDK # Optional AuthenDBI # if you want to use Database based # authentication Net::Z3950 # needed for remote MARC record lookup. > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha <advocacy> If you don't have a compelling need to use Windows. Setting up a Debian or FreeBSD box would be _MUCH_ easier. The best help you will get is probably from using Debian. (most of the Developers use it and I use it on my workstation. Once set up you can administer the Debian box from any web browser if you install webmin. If *NIX is uncomfortable to you you can probably find a local Linux Users Group that would be very happy to help you.) On the other hand FreeBSD i Known for it's Stability. 6 of the top ten uptimes listed by netcraft http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html are FreeBSD Servers (It takes an uptime of almost three years to make the top ten.) </advocacy> If you decide to try and get Koha running on a Win32 server please let us know your experience. Good Luck, Micheas _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha

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RE: [Koha] Questions about using Koha in our primary school
by Nicholas Rosasco 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

I know I'm not answering all your questions/concerns, but some of them fall within my purview (2 dollar word, there :) ) since they touch on the manual. > The main question is one you must receive frequently. Does > platform independence really include Windows? The computer has > been purchased and I assume it > came with Win XP (I haven't seen it yet). I don't think I could > convince them to use Linux, even if I had a clue about it myself. We've had people do it. There are versions, if nothing else, of all the core tools available for windows (apache, etc). I'll let someone else cover that in more detail.... > In any case, I want to test out and > demonstrate Koha using my laptop which runs Win ME. I see from > the installation notes that it has been installed on NT and Win > 2000 with considerable difficulty. > Can you tell me how difficult? I have no knowledge of perl or > Apache. Does that make it pointless trying without years of study? Perl knowledge isn't a requirement... we have a pretty good (this is coming from the documentation manager) manual to help you :). A lack-of-fear of Apache (ie, a willingness to ask if you are stuck) does help. Windows setups have been done, I think. > The next question is about languages. The OPAC at our school > would be presented in at least 5 European languages, including > Greek. The school has 5 language > sections, plus Irish, but all other languages in the European > Union would be represented in the book collection. So would a > multilingual OPAC be difficult to > produce? I'm a bit confused. The software cares not for the data (ie, titles, etc). :) If you mean the labels/text on screen (ie MAIN, etc) the hope is that the templating system we have underway (currently in between development and beta testing -- ver. 1.3) will permit the user to select from the available languages. Could you elaborate on this? > There would possibly be some benefit to Koha from this, and > perhaps this could be our contribution to the cause: translations > of key documents into all these > languages. You're making me drool :). I'm responsible for coordinating the translation of our supporting materials. > Next question. The library will be staffed by volunteer parents > with less computer knowledge than even me. There won't be a > trained librarian for at least 3 years. > Would this present a problem? Is the system sufficiently simple > and robust that we can't get into much trouble? We currently have a manual for operators (ie, library staff) underway. It is being written by a librarian, not a computer geek :). My hope is to have in integrated into the master manual (on www.koha.org) within approximately a week or so (fingers crossed there). > Next question. As the collection will be started with donated > books, we need to catalog them. There is a shareware proggy that > purports to take an ISBN and then > search the internet for the book, then places the biblio dat in a > database. It's called Readerware. It says it even gets the > cover art and includes that. I think that > having cover art would be really nifty for a primary school > library. So could the OPAC show that. Is this simply a question > of having an image in a field of a MySQL > database. And is that possible? We've got a similar feature in re ISBNs, also in development (target of Septemberish). I'll let another developer or a librarian answer in more detail. Cover art, no, we don't have an equivalent. > I'll stop there. If you can give me good news I'll start > downloading. I've got a couple of months to get it going as the > school year starts in September in Europe. As if > things weren't weird enough. > I'm cc'ing the developers (I'm just the manual geek), so they can can give you their take on these questions. Nick Rosasco nrosasco(a)acm.org

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Re: [Koha] From the Kaitiaki
by Pat Eyler 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Ben Ostrowsky wrote: > > 2) we could use the modules and create a 'bundle' to use for > > installing them. > > This seems like the RTTD -- it'd be a sin to reinvent standard CPAN > wheels. First post! > > Not that I'm qualified to volunteer to maintain the bundle. :) Well, votes by volunteers count for more, but this still counts. Thanks Ben. -pate > > Ben > >

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From the Kaitiaki
by Pat Eyler 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

12 July, 2002 To the Koha community; Bonjour, Our first French translation did in fact come out last week, which sets the stage nicely for this weeks news. We've also seen continued growth of our developer and user bases (including an installation of FreeBSD -- Hooray!!) A continuing issue has been the verification and installation of all needed Perl modules for Koha. We've discussed different approaches to solving it, and it basically comes down to two approaches: 1) we could write all of our own functions and ignore existing Perl modules. This would allow us sidestep the problem entirely. The downside is that the modules are very well designed, and very well tested -- failing to use them takes more of our development time to duplicate their functionality *and* it introduces bugs that we would not ordinarily have to deal with. 2) we could use the modules and create a 'bundle' to use for installing them. This would allow us to leverage the work done by the module writers while still preserving a fairly simple installation method. It will require one of the developers to step up to maintaining the bundle itself though. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter. This is one of those cases where I think the users have a much better idea of what 'the right thing to do is', so please give it some thought and let us know. 1.2 With 1.2.1 out and in use Chris, Steve, and the other developers have wasted no time. If anything they've pick up the pace. There is already a release candidate for 1.2.2 (mostly bug fixes and small improvements). We've also seen early glimpses of 1.2.3 which features a templated version of the OPAC functionality. Our 1.2.3 release will be a big deal for Koha. Templates allow us to begin the process of translating the application. This opens Koha to a whole new world of users. Translations Nicholas has spearheaded the effort to organize the translation efforts. He's started a mailing list for translators (http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/koha-translate<> for details). He's also laid out some ground rules for translation (<http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/wiki/index.php?page=TranslationTeams> and <http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2002/000858.html> for details. If you'd like to see Koha to your native language, please get involved. Community More work has been going on in the larger community. Some of this work is now becoming visible at <http://www.callimachus.org>, which is an umbrella group for coordinating the efforts of people working on free software for libraries. Some initial joint projects are being bandied about and I think things will start to break loose fairly soon. I'd like to thank everyone for putting up with my disappearing act over the last couple of weeks. I'm currently in the midst of a job transition, which is impacting just about everything else as well. If you're still waiting on me to do something for you, I might require a gentle reminder (and/or a bit of patience). Merci, -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki of the Koha Project

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1.2.3RC1
by Tonnesen Steve 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

I found a bug in 1.2.3RC1. I put the configfile() routine in Koha.pm but Database.pm and Koha.pm both 'use' each other and that causes problems. If you move configfile to Database.pm it fixes the problem. I can't check in my change right now, but I thought I'd let you know. Steve

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[Bug 58] typos
by bugzilla-daemon＠wilbur.katipo.co.nz 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58 chris(a)katipo.co.nz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED OS/Version| |All Resolution| |FIXED ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA contact for the bug, or are watching the QA contact.

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1.2.3 release candidate 1
by Tonnesen Steve 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

I've posted a release candidate for 1.2.3 on http://sourceforge.net/projects/koha/ This release will have the OPAC templating and Authentication systems added in, so it will likely need some extra testing before it goes out. Standard warning applies. This is a release candidate and is not intended for production systems. Steve.

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Meeting
by Nicholas Rosasco 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

The meeting is due to roll around in about an hour.... the collective-thinking idea seems to have taken a pratfall :) in not passing the agenda around in advance. As they say in legislatures, "necessarily absent" are Paul and Pat, former isn't feeling well, latter is occupied on something. Nick ++++++++++++++++++ I'm probably not going to be at this weeks meeting. If you guys could team up to handle it, I'd be most appreciative. I'd recommend the following: Paul CVS Chris 1.2 schedule Paul 1.4 plans Nick translations Nick documentation housekeeping Nick community (Koha, and the larger OSS4lib, and the larger library Chris new koha website

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