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RE: [Koha-devel] irc meeting
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Nicholas Rosasco wrote: > We might want to stick the crossref'ing idea (pointing back to the catalog) > on there, if only to table it -- it has been asked for 2/3 times I can think > of. excellent point, consider it added. -pate > > Nick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: koha-devel-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > [mailto:koha-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Pat Eyler > > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:03 AM > > To: Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > > Subject: [Koha-devel] irc meeting > > > > > > Hmm, we managed to miss our meeting on the 13th (probably due to the > > crunch of getting 1.2.0 out. Shall we try again at: > > > > o When: June 27, 2002 20:00GMT > > o Where: irc.katipo.co.nz:6667 > > o Who: Open to entire Koha community > > o What: Agenda to be determined > > > > Some agenda items might be: > > > > 1.2 schedule > > 1.4 plans > > thoughts on templating > > translations > > community (Koha, and the larger OSS4lib, and the larger library > > community) > > > > thoughts? > > > > -pate > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ---------- > > Bringing you mounds of caffeinated joy > > >>> http://thinkgeek.com/sf <<< > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Koha-devel mailing list > > Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/koha-devel > > > >

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irc meeting
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

Hmm, we managed to miss our meeting on the 13th (probably due to the crunch of getting 1.2.0 out. Shall we try again at: o When: June 27, 2002 20:00GMT o Where: irc.katipo.co.nz:6667 o Who: Open to entire Koha community o What: Agenda to be determined Some agenda items might be: 1.2 schedule 1.4 plans thoughts on templating translations community (Koha, and the larger OSS4lib, and the larger library community) thoughts? -pate

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koha version 1.4 TODO
by paul POULAIN 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

Hi guys, As 1.4 Release Manager, i've added a page on the wiki about what is to do : http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/wiki/index.php?page=ToDoMARC Every developper that has a few time to work on it can go and see what is to do. The more urgent is the merging of rel-1-2 and main branch (as soon as 1.2.1 will be released i think) Let me know if someone pick a task ;-) Thanks a lot -- Paul

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Re: aah! a linux consultant!
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > actually this is the type of product that lends it self to pro bono effort. > many of the small schools have no budget. True, and the combined results of people making efforts like this could (will?) be enough of a koha market that schools, home schools, small businesses, and libraries may be willing to put up a little money (here and there) to improve Koha in one way or another. Enough of those small grants, sponsorships, etc and you've got a decent little cottage economy. -pate > > > > > > > > do you currently have a school you are trying to help automate? > > > > not at the moment, though i'm helping out with a couple of cases (pro > > bono) > > > > -pate > > > > > > >

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Re: aah! a linux consultant!
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > Actually koha would be a good niche consulting market. I think it would be, and I hope we can stack up a variety of folks interested in supporting it to go this route. It would be good to see the improvements in stability that would come out of people being paid to support it (and develop it for that matter). > > Dynix!! Oh my... Glendale public library system uses that thing! > from what I understand there is a a replacement for it now.. it was amazing > in it's day though, the system they had prior to that had no key word > search.... I was in the tech services office the day one of the gals came > back in to tell everyone how neat keyword search was. The maint fees on > dynix are pretty high from what I understand on a yearly basis... My understanding is that most commercial products have pretty heavy maintenance fees. > > the openbook product or whatever the are calling it now .... well it is > interesting to see if they actually pull it off this time... the fellow in > charge is really bright on library methodology was former head of tech > services for city of Seattle.. so conceptually he should be able to come up > with something to please the market, although I think he has to pay > programmers to implementing it grovel for grants.. etc etc etc. do not think > he is a code writer..... > > it is a pity he did not team up with the effort here... I have the feeling > in his area he would put us all to shame.... > /me nods > Funny story, they were going to come out with the technical beta on the > product and were supposed to have the instructions finished and the files > posted by one afternoon.... They all blew the day off to go to a baseball > game..... meanwhile there were a bunch of folk out there (including myself) > waiting to download this thing and no code to download! > > Well, the next afternoon the files wee up and the install instructions had so > many flaws in them unless you did some deductive reasoning it would not have > worked at all. What an evening of self abuse that was! ( I was starting to > feel like the cdk pearl fellow) ouch > > do you currently have a school you are trying to help automate? not at the moment, though i'm helping out with a couple of cases (pro bono) -pate > > Ed! > > > > Subj:Re: aah! a linux consultant! > > Date:6/18/2002 10:07:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time > > From:<A HREF="mailto:pate@eylerfamily.org">pate(a)eylerfamily.org</A> > > To:<A HREF="mailto:COURYHOUSE@aol.com">COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > aah! a LINUX consultant! > > > Heh did a google on patefamily! checked out your site ! > > > now I guess the question is what is your interest in the library system? > > > Is this to be an extension of consulting efforts? > > > > hmm, linux consultant feels kind of limiting. I see myself as more of an > > open-ended IT consultant (I'm currently doing a lot of work with AIX and > > Solaris). > > > > As to my interest in library systems, it's a long standing thing. I've > > always loved libraries, and worked for Dynix for a bit (many years ago). > > I've kept my eye out for a free library system since I first read the GNU > > request for one (in '93 or so), and have hoped to get involved with it. > > Lo and behold, I found Koha and got involved. > > > > As to my intents. I'm still looking into things. I'll stay involved with > > the larger Koha community and do my best to see it succeed. Given the > > right answers to the questions I'm asking (myself, other developers, > > Katipo, and libraries) I may get involved with a commercial venture > > working with Koha. If someone were to offer me money to subsidize my > > current efforts, that'd be fine too. ;) > > > > -pate > > > > > > > > Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > > > > >

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Re: secure linuxen
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > what is scope creep? Scope creep is the gradual growth of the scope of a project (number of targets, number of featurs, etc). It is also a leading killer of projects as the developers gradually succumb to the increasingly heavy load they are placed under. > > > Yes, needs to run under windows as well the openbook folk were also > targeting this since it would team well with a gates library grant. > gates is putting a lot of servers and workstations in libraries these days. > /me nods. -pate > ed sharpe: > > > > Subj:Re: secure linuxen > > Date:6/18/2002 10:08:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time > > From:<A HREF="mailto:pate@eylerfamily.org">pate(a)eylerfamily.org</A> > > To:<A HREF="mailto:COURYHOUSE@aol.com">COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com</A> > > CC:<A HREF="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > Probably would be good to test under HPUX also. > > > > hmm, AIX, OS-X, and Solaris are all also interesting ... Win32 less so, > > but probably important nonetheless. > > > > Gaah! I hate scope creep ;) > > > > -pate > > > > > > > > Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > > > > > > > >

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[RE] about MARC structure : additionalauthor and illustrator
by Ville Huhtala 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

In Steve stuff, he use for every author/illustrator, a 700 field, with $a containing the name and $e containing the role (author or illustrator) In my UNIMARC manual, i can find : 700 : main responsability : $a as name, and $4 as title. I have no $e subtag. --- $4 as a title? According to UNIMARC Manual http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni7.htm $4 Relator Code The code used to designate the relationship between the person named in the field and the bibliographic item to which the record refers. The list of codes is to be found in Appendix C. Repeatable. and http://www.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/appx-c.htm 440 Illustrator Person who conceives a design or illustration. You may have old/misprinted manual. Ville Huhtala

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Re: [Koha] From the Kaitiaki
by Md. Aftabuddin 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

I would like to translate koha in Bangla (Bengali) the 5th largest language in the world. Also I will try to translate koha in hindi. Whether the images are to be changed only? I would like to get the overall idea of how to do that. Can i get to see the translated version in other language in any site? Md. Aftabuddin On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Pat Eyler wrote: > 14 June, 2002 > To the Koha community; > > Hola, > As you can guess from my switch from Maori to Spanish, we've picked up > some new interest in Latin America. I'm looking forward to seeing the > translation of documentation and our interface. We hope that our new > volunteers will also want to jump in and start coding. If you're > interested in helping in this effort, please feel free to contact me > directly or to jump onto the developer's mailing list[1] and get to > work. > > Beyond reaching out to Latin America, we're trying to reach out to > other communities as well. The OSS4Lib[2] community has been very > welcoming, and while we won't be attending their pre-ALA conference > this weekend we do hope to get to their next gathering. The good > folks working on MARC::Record[3] have also been open and encouraging. > I hope that we'll be able to contribute back to them. > > A final note on reaching out, I'm hoping that we can start a dialog > with the developers (and users) of the other Free Software Library > Systems that are out there. While we've taken a number of different > approaches, I think there is a lot of room for cooperation. We've got > a great opportunity to come together as a larger community, in a way > that no commercial system vendors could. I hope that we'll take > advantage of it to create better, faster, more useful software for > libraries of all sizes. > > 1.2 > Congratulations to Chris and everyone else who's been involved > in this push. 1.2.0 is out and the developers are diving in to > 1.2.1! 1.2.0 represents a number of big improvements over the > 1.1 series, we've got an installation script, real > documentation, improvements to searching, some clean ups of the > database, more tests, and maybe a bug fix or two. > > You can get your very own copy at > <https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=16466> > > 1.4 > Paul Poulain and Steve Tonnesen are continuing to work on the > foundations of 1.4. They've started working with the MARC API, > and are starting to integrate the MARC::Record toolkit. Now > that the 1.2 series has hit the streets, look for things to > pick up in 1.4! > > Translations > While I've already mentioned the news about our progress on the > Spanish side, we're continuing to look for volunteers to pick > up more languages. If your native language hasn't been > mentioned so far let me know, I'd be happy to put you on our > list of translations. If a translation has already been > started, I'm sure your contributions would be welcome. > > Documentation > Nicholas Rosasco has been hard at work on the new Koha Manual. > He's managed to put together a great book in a very short > time. He's got big plans for where to go next too. Look for > the documentation to just keep getting better! > > I hope this note has found you all in good health and good spirits. > Enjoy our new release, and enjoy the start of summer! > > > Mucho gusto, > -pate > > > Pat Eyler > Kaitiaki of the Koha Project > > > [1] Please use the tools at > <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=16466> to subscribe to our > development and/or announcement mailing lists. > > [2] See <http://www.oss4lib.org> for more information about this project. > > [3] See <http://marcpm.sourceforge.net> for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >

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about MARC structure : additionalauthor and illustrator
by paul POULAIN 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

Hi guys, I'm working on MARC stuff and have a question about additionalauthors and illustrators. In Steve stuff, he use for every author/illustrator, a 700 field, with $a containing the name and $e containing the role (author or illustrator) In my UNIMARC manual, i can find : 700 : main responsability : $a as name, and $4 as title. I have no $e subtag. 701 : second responsability : same structure. How to solve the difference ? -- Paul

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Re: secure linuxen
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '02

19 Jun '02

On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > I actually think you can use the rpm method to install into esmith also > although there is a sort of a special preferred way they have of doing it... it may also require different RPMs ... just to handle differing configuration issues and file locations. > I think... will have to look into this further!. > I'd love to hear your findings. -pate > Ed! > > > Subj:secure linuxen > > Date:6/18/2002 10:28:01 AM US Mountain Standard Time > > From:<A HREF="mailto:pate@eylerfamily.org">pate(a)eylerfamily.org</A> > > To:<A HREF="mailto:COURYHOUSE@aol.com">COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com</A> > > CC:<A HREF="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > okay, okay, i give. ;) > > > > It doesn look like the e-smith package does provide a lot of > > functionality, and could be a great choice for a library installing koha > > on their own. > > > > Because the various developers (and companies) each like different > > flavors (or flavours) of linux (and other unixen), we're not likely to > > settle on a specific distribution. > > > > All is not lost though, there are several options: > > Someone with enough interest could build packages themselves. > > Someone could start a company to sell an 'after market kit' for > > e-smith. > > Someone could contact e-smith and talk with them about adding koha into > > their current offering. > > Someone could hire an existing koha support company to build the > > packages and provide support for them. > > > > I think that any of these is a pretty good option. As the Kaitiaki I'd > > certainly encourage someone to take on any one of them, and would be > > willing to help, advise, and otherwise support them. > > > > As an individual, I'm not likely to take on the project (on my dime at > > least) for a couple of reasons: > > RedHat is the acknowledged (US) market leader ... I can ride that brand > > to higher sales. (cf. Networking shops selling Cisco gear) SME may > > prove to be a viable extension to this, but not as a first cut (imco) > > As a second platform I want to see Koha working on OpenBSD. I think > > this is the best choice for a secure server. It will also help show > > that Koha isn't 'for linux only'. > > > > > > Let me know what you'd like to do, > > -pate > >

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