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Re: [Koha-devel] Time estimate for the translation of koha
by Joshua M. Ferraro 20 Aug '07

20 Aug '07

Hi Axel, Welcome to the Koha community, and thanks for your interest in translating Koha into norwegian bokmål, we'd love to support your effort in any way possible. As you point out, there are several methods and sources for translating Koha. The majority of the work involves generating and translating a POT file for the interface (OPAC vs Staff) and the version of Koha that you're wanting to translate (2.2.8 vs 2.2.9 vs 3.0) and finally the template/theme (in 2.2 series, there are two public themes, default and npl). Translations of Koha between minor version releases don't have many changes, there would only be at most a few new strings or changes to strings. So a translation of 2.2.8 will _mostly_ work for 2.2.9. The purpose of translate.koha.org is to simplify the process of maintenance of the POT files. To be sure, it could use a bit more maintenance. We're currently lacking an official 'translation manager' for the Koha project, but I do my best in my spare time to verify and add translation requests to that site. So ... the first thing to do is consider what version of Koha you want to translate. If the 2.2.x version, you can add your translation to translate.koha.org, or generate a POT file from 2.2.9 and translate that. If for 3.0, the templates haven't been 100% signed off yet, so it'd be best to wait until that happens before spending too much time translating a POT file from that code base. Note also, I've cced this to koha-translate, a list dedicated to dealing with translation issues for Koha: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate Thanks again for your interest. Let us know if we can be of any help. Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro SUPPORT FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf(a)liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS ----- "Axel Bojer" <axelb(a)skolelinux.no> wrote: > Axel Bojer skrev: > (...) > > I also see that you have a web interface: > > I forgot the links: > http://translate.koha.org/use.php?lg=en > http://translate.koha.org/get_tables.php?lg=en&view=all > > Norwegian bokmål is viewed as "0 %" and "508 lines" > for the file: nor_npl_classic_opac > wich is yet another(!) po file name. > > Further: > > "Click on a filename below in order to add suggested translations. > Each > language will have at least two files, one for the Public (OPAC) and > one > for the staff (Intranet). Some will have more because of the various > 'themes' and 'versions' available." > > Is this so to understand, that only two files (the above mentioned > pot-files: css_opac.pot and default_intranet.pot) are really needed to > > get a fully localized interface, and that the others are optional? > And why do you then need over 5000 extra lines for themes? That is > above > me. And what exactly do you mean by "versions"? > > The information I found told new translators to ask everything at the > > mailing list :-) > > Best regards > Axel Bojer > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha-devel mailing list > Koha-devel(a)nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel

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[Fwd: [Koha-devel] Time estimate for the translation of koha]
by Axel Bojer 19 Aug '07

19 Aug '07

Details, first posted to the devel-list, but perhaps the translation list will be more fitting for it. -A. -------- Opprinnelig melding -------- Emne: [Koha-devel] Time estimate for the translation of koha Dato: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:58:36 +0200 Fra: Axel Bojer <axelb(a)skolelinux.no> Til: koha-devel(a)nongnu.org Hello! I am new to this list. We, two norwegians, are trying to get sponsored a translation of koha to norwegian bokmål. We are already involved in other translation projects and have a translation list for the most used data terms, so we have something to start with :-) Our first step is to estimate the work and time included. I searched your web pages for something describing the amount of work needed for this, but found nothing. So then I downloaded the installation files for 2.2.9 to have a look at the translation files, but the result is a bit confusing. First I searched for the pot-files: # tree -fin koha-2.2.9|grep pot$ koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac.pot [472] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet.pot [2576] These two files together fills about 3000 strings (see the parentheses, the amount are taken from kbabels catalog manager), that means approximately 40 man hours (a full week) for both translation and proofreading if this is all that is needed for a full translation. But then I searched for po-files: # tree -fin koha-2.2.9|grep po$ koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_intranet_zh_TW.po [3998] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_en_EN.po [471] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_es_ES.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_eu.po [425] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_fr_FR.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_it_IT.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_pl_PL.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_ta_MY.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_uk_UA.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_zh_CN.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/css_opac_zh_TW.po [509] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_en_EN.po [2313] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_es_AR.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_es_ES.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_eu.po [3561] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_fr_FR.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_it_IT.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_pl_PL.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_ta_MY.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_uk_UA.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_intranet_zh_TW.po [2613] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_opac_pl_PL.po [200] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/default_opac_zh_TW.po [205] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_intranet_uk_UA.po [3175] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_intranet_zh_CN.po [3175] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_intranet_zh_TW.po [3175] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_hu_HU.po [507] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_jp_JP.po [507] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_kr_KR.po [507] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_uk_UA.po [507] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_zh_CN.po [507] koha-2.2.9/scripts/misc/translator/po/npl_opac_zh_TW.po [507] New files that only exists as po and not pot includes: -- css_intranet* [3998] -- default_opac* [200--205] -- npl_intranet* [3175] -- npl_opac* [507] (I also see these same files on net: http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewvc/koha/misc/translator/po/?root=koha&pa… some with an age of 2--3 years, last change four months ago) If we have to translate these also, we will have about 8000 strings more, that makes a big difference! Do you have the pot-files for these files? (I also see that the likenamed files don't always have the same amount of strings, wich puzzles me -- see, again, the parantheses). Are alle these files needed, if not wich one are and what are the others for? I also see that you have a web interface: Best regards Axel Bojer _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel(a)nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel

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